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Title: mic configueration (sorry in advance)
Post by: spcyrfc on September 15, 2004, 05:11:32 PM
i have been searching the site trying to figure out how to measure angles and distance for the different configuerations? 
could someone point me to the archive that i know must exist.

also, does it matter if windscreens touch?

luke
Title: Re: mic configueration (sorry in advance)
Post by: Tim on September 15, 2004, 05:17:48 PM
doesn't matter if wondscreens touch

go to dpamicrophones.com and the microphone university link on the left side...
Title: Re: mic configueration (sorry in advance)
Post by: pfife on September 15, 2004, 05:23:35 PM
the dpa site is the best, but for LD mics, I was much more clear with configs after seeing this site:

http://homepage.mac.com/gottajiboo40/PhotoAlbum11.html

BTW - DIN rules.

Title: Re: mic configueration (sorry in advance)
Post by: spcyrfc on September 15, 2004, 07:16:05 PM
thanks, the mic U is helpful indeed, but i still dont understand how to measure the degree between the two capsules.
the distance of cm is measured from the centers of the capsules, but how about the degrees, i imagine i could eyeball it, but there must be a more specific way to go about it.

protracter?
also, these configuerations i believe are mostly all acheivable using a standard movable t-bar, right?

Title: Re: mic configueration (sorry in advance)
Post by: Tim on September 15, 2004, 07:25:07 PM
protracter

eventually you'll be able to eyeball it

I like the akg t-bar, available at your favorite retailer.
Title: Re: mic configueration (sorry in advance)
Post by: spcyrfc on September 15, 2004, 07:31:32 PM
just a little plastic protracter will do?
Title: Re: mic configueration (sorry in advance)
Post by: sexymexi on September 16, 2004, 12:06:49 AM
yea, show up in the TS with a protractor.  I've seen it before, but i can guess 90, and 115 close enough, do we really have to that precise??  i don't really care so much, i like my tapes, thats all that matters, try a few things, and enjoy what you get.
Title: Re: mic configueration (sorry in advance)
Post by: Tim on September 16, 2004, 12:50:21 AM
just a little plastic protracter will do?

sure will...

but you'll get the hang of it soon enough and be able to leave it at home...
Title: Re: mic configueration (sorry in advance)
Post by: F.O.Bean on September 16, 2004, 02:45:17 AM
yeah, protractors are soo geeky :P ;D

just geuss after a few shows and if your ear likes it, thats all that matters ;D
Title: Re: mic configueration (sorry in advance)
Post by: pfife on September 16, 2004, 07:45:21 AM
I used a protractor and made a cutout from a peice of cardboard that had the exact measurements and angles for my TL's... the cutout looks like a trapezoid.     I made one for DIN and one for ORTF.

Look at the link I posted above, and look, for instance, at the DIN picture from above.   Imagine a peice of cardboard trapezoid that has on the bottom, long edge 17cm apart;  from that line use a protractor to measure the angles inward, draw your lines up (these lines would match up to the metal strips on the top of the mics pictured) - then connect the tops of the lines to finish out the trapezoids.

I use these peices of cardboard every time, but I also try to eyeball first- but I am always way off.  :-\

Did I mention that DIN rules?

Title: Re: mic configueration (sorry in advance)
Post by: twatts (pants are so over-rated...) on September 16, 2004, 09:40:36 AM
Got this one from Todd French, who told me he got it from Nick Gregory:

DIN, 90 degrees, 17cm.  17cm is 6.69 inches.  And everyone knows 90deg.  But he uses a dollar bill to figure it out:  US bills are 6 inches long.  So add a 1/2 inch and viola!

btw, 1 inch = 2.54 cm

Terry


Title: Re: mic configueration (sorry in advance)
Post by: tfrench on September 16, 2004, 11:09:56 AM
Got this one from Todd French, who told me he got it from Nick Gregory:

DIN, 90 degrees, 17cm.  17cm is 6.69 inches.  And everyone knows 90deg.  But he uses a dollar bill to figure it out:  US bills are 6 inches long.  So add a 1/2 inch and viola!

btw, 1 inch = 2.54 cm

Terry




17cm for hyper-cardioid and 20cm for cardioid for reading here at TS.com
Title: Re: mic configueration (sorry in advance)
Post by: kmanshi on September 16, 2004, 01:05:25 PM
If you were going to search for "best mic configs for the situation", how would you go about it?  I guess, what would be good keywords.  I'm trying to identify what configs to use.  When, and why mostly.  Is this all up to my ears?

Is there a situation where ORTF is best?  Where DIN is best?  XY, etc?
Title: Re: mic configueration (sorry in advance)
Post by: hhf32 on September 16, 2004, 08:49:14 PM
This is from the archives..........http://www.taperssection.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=17514.0