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Title: Where can I find a JB3????
Post by: Mitchell (Jake and Sawyer's Dad) on September 20, 2004, 02:50:48 PM
Where can I find one of these bad boys these days???  I have searched and searched, but nothing!  Why were they discontinued?
Title: Re: Where can I find a JB3????
Post by: caymanreview on September 20, 2004, 02:55:03 PM
ebay

no idea why they were discontinued
Title: Re: Where can I find a JB3????
Post by: Mitchell (Jake and Sawyer's Dad) on September 20, 2004, 02:56:56 PM
I have been searching Ebay, but nothing is on there!   :'( :'( ??? ???
Title: Re: Where can I find a JB3????
Post by: caymanreview on September 20, 2004, 02:57:50 PM
i just pulled up like 17 jb3s a few minutes ago. 10-13 were overseas though
Title: Re: Where can I find a JB3????
Post by: Mitchell (Jake and Sawyer's Dad) on September 20, 2004, 03:04:34 PM
I did a google and all I get is articles and test results!
Title: Re: Where can I find a JB3????
Post by: The Kilted Taper on September 20, 2004, 03:15:23 PM
In the search entry on EBay, type in "Nomad Jukebox 3" and you will get several. The numbers have been coming down lately. I'm temped to pick up a second one as back-up and to use for work listening, etc. They're there...

Title: Re: Where can I find a JB3????
Post by: twatts (pants are so over-rated...) on September 20, 2004, 03:16:49 PM
Buy Now:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=75464&item=5721121506&rd=1

Title: Re: Where can I find a JB3????
Post by: Mitchell (Jake and Sawyer's Dad) on September 20, 2004, 03:20:59 PM
Ahhhhhh - I was doing the "Nomad JB3" on Ebay and nothing was coming up!  Thanks!
Title: Re: Where can I find a JB3????
Post by: Mitchell (Jake and Sawyer's Dad) on September 20, 2004, 03:24:32 PM
One last qustion - there are a few on there.  Some 20gb and the others are 40gb.  Does this really matter?  I am not going to use it to store music on (my iPod does that!) - just to record my bands shows/rehersals.
Title: Re: Where can I find a JB3????
Post by: twatts (pants are so over-rated...) on September 20, 2004, 03:26:15 PM
Matter?  No, not really, except the 40 is a lot more in price.  The 20 gg is more than enough.  Currently I have a 3 hours Asylum Street Spankers show and the Bridge 1.5 hour show on mine, no problems, recorded at 48k...  LOTS of room for other stuff...

Terry

Title: Re: Where can I find a JB3????
Post by: Mitchell (Jake and Sawyer's Dad) on September 20, 2004, 03:31:33 PM
Yeah, I knew that and I dont know why I asked....... ;)

One last question - is $275 high for one of these?  I thought they sold for around $200 new?
Title: Re: Where can I find a JB3????
Post by: twatts (pants are so over-rated...) on September 20, 2004, 03:36:32 PM
Yeah, I think $275 is pretty high, I only paid $200 for mine after rebate from amazon, and I've seen refurbs go for $180 on ebay...

But how many do you see for sale?  At this point, with supply becoming smalle and demand getting tighter, prices will only go up...

If this is a reasonable buy or not is a decision you'll have to make yourself...

Terry
Title: Re: Where can I find a JB3????
Post by: Mitchell (Jake and Sawyer's Dad) on September 20, 2004, 03:39:22 PM
Terry - 2 tings.  (1)  Thanks for the help and info.  (2) that picture of Amanda Beard is waaaaaayyy to hot.  She is beautiful..........
Title: Re: Where can I find a JB3????
Post by: Mitchell (Jake and Sawyer's Dad) on September 20, 2004, 03:42:42 PM
Also - are the ones being sold in GB any different than the ones being sold here in the US?  The GB ones are much cheaper than the US ones.
Title: Re: Where can I find a JB3????
Post by: nic on September 20, 2004, 03:46:08 PM
the GB ones are either listed in pounds, or dont have the VAT(tax) added
Title: Re: Where can I find a JB3????
Post by: twatts (pants are so over-rated...) on September 20, 2004, 03:47:05 PM
I have no idea, but I'm guessing there is no difference except maybe that there everything is written in The Queen's English, where we here use American English...

But 65 pounds, I think, is about $120 dollars...

Terry


Title: Re: Where can I find a JB3????
Post by: jpschust on September 20, 2004, 03:47:55 PM
wouldnt the gb ones be 220-240v rather than 120?
Title: Re: Where can I find a JB3????
Post by: Mitchell (Jake and Sawyer's Dad) on September 20, 2004, 03:49:34 PM
Yeah, I know which ONES are the GB ones, I just wanted to know if the units themselves are any different than the ones we get here in the US.  Meaning - are there any compatibility issues, etc?  I.e., will it work for me here in the US (software the same, operations the same, etc.)

Thanks!
Title: Re: Where can I find a JB3????
Post by: Roamer on September 20, 2004, 04:33:59 PM
Adapter will be 220-240 V and you will likely have to pay tax. I don' have a JB3, but I can hardly see how they could be any different otherwise ...
A lot of the ones from UK that I've seen don't have battery, so check what is included (and not ...)
Title: Re: Where can I find a JB3????
Post by: caymanreview on September 20, 2004, 04:44:37 PM
there is no difference in the machines beetween 20 -40 - 60gigs

you can actually swap HD's in them to put larger ones in
Title: Re: Where can I find a JB3????
Post by: F.O.Bean on September 20, 2004, 05:10:29 PM
there is no difference in the machines beetween 20 -40 - 60gigs

you can actually swap HD's in them to put larger ones in

wonder hoe eays this is, ive already torn one apart, and if you could just pop it in there, id be willing to try :)

but 20GB is plenty for me, i was able to do the whole last phish run on 20GB and also the whole moedown, and still had plenty of free space :)
Title: Re: Where can I find a JB3????
Post by: caymanreview on September 20, 2004, 05:21:40 PM
it is supposed to be a little tricky, and i guess the lcd display wont take much messin with and it messes up. but there are directions available online to swap the hd's
Title: Re: Where can I find a JB3????
Post by: rockinws on September 20, 2004, 06:09:55 PM
i just picked one up from crutchfield.com for $200.....and that included the auto kit (cassette adaptor and cig lighter connection)
Title: Re: Where can I find a JB3????
Post by: Humbug on September 21, 2004, 10:08:14 AM
Damn those JB3s on ebay.co.uk are going cheap, I'm going to go for one as a spare..
Title: Re: Where can I find a JB3????
Post by: The Kilted Taper on September 21, 2004, 10:51:22 AM
Make sure you read the entire description. Most of those don't include batteries, or much of anything except the refurb unit...I'm still tempted though..
Title: Re: Where can I find a JB3????
Post by: Humbug on September 21, 2004, 11:31:46 AM
Make sure you read the entire description. Most of those don't include batteries, or much of anything except the refurb unit...I'm still tempted though..


Yeah, I've read it, but like I said, I already have a JB3 (and 3 batteries), I'm just scared mine will go bang one day!
Title: Re: Where can I find a JB3????
Post by: The Kilted Taper on September 21, 2004, 12:26:30 PM
Me too, plus I use mine daily at work for musical entertainment. I need a show only rig.And I was hoping to get a 3rd battery so I didn't need to pay $35 for one.  Description is kinda confusing too. One spot says they ship to the UK only, but then another says they ship worldwide....I sent the seller an email to get clarification.

Title: Re: Where can I find a JB3????
Post by: Humbug on September 21, 2004, 11:08:13 PM
I sent them an email too, they sell batteries for GBP 20.00.
Title: Re: Where can I find a JB3????
Post by: Diggin on September 22, 2004, 12:19:42 PM
http://us.creative.com/products/product.asp?category=84&subcategory=86&product=9300
189.99 for refurbished from creative
Title: Re: Where can I find a JB3????
Post by: The Kilted Taper on September 22, 2004, 05:01:07 PM
I guess I'll be the lab rat and see what's up with these Brit JB3's. I've got about 10mins left on one that I am the high bidder on. A tad more than I would like to pay, with no battery...but we'll see.
Title: Re: Where can I find a JB3????
Post by: The Kilted Taper on September 22, 2004, 05:04:54 PM
Nevermind, spoke to soon. I was outbid and the price is too high for me. I'll keep trying though!
Title: Re: Where can I find a JB3????
Post by: thierryhenry on September 23, 2004, 06:05:20 PM
Nevermind, spoke to soon. I was outbid and the price is too high for me. I'll keep trying though!


Shucks.
Title: Re: Where can I find a JB3????
Post by: bluegrass_brad on September 26, 2004, 12:41:25 PM
Just keep a steady eye on ebay.  I checked frequently, and one night saw one that had just been listed for a buy it now price of $79.  Jumped right on it.  When It arrived the battery was unopened and it still had the little plastic clear protective sheet on the display.  Looks and performs like new.  Guess the story was that the lady that bought it just didnt feel like trying to figure out how to use it anymore. The only things that didnt come with it were the little leatherette pouch and the cheap ass headphones. Already done a couple of recordings with it and am very pleased.  So glad to be rid of the DAT!
Title: Re: Where can I find a JB3????
Post by: The Kilted Taper on September 28, 2004, 10:39:11 AM
Question to my fellow JB3 users...How many of you have 2 JB3s? I use mine for taping, but I also use it as an MP3 player at work. I am thinking I want a one so that they will have their own specific purpose. Thoughts?


Brian
Title: Re: Where can I find a JB3????
Post by: musicsherlock on September 28, 2004, 01:55:33 PM
Brian- don't have the JB3 yet, but I was in a similar situation with my MD.  Recorded and used it for playback non-stop and ended up destroying the optical read.  Now I just have one MD for recording and am sticking with CD's for playback.
Title: Re: Where can I find a JB3????
Post by: philR on September 28, 2004, 04:54:44 PM
i just bought my 2nd jb3.  but i want to use both of them to record in case i can run two sources.
Title: Re: Where can I find a JB3????
Post by: thierryhenry on September 28, 2004, 04:56:01 PM
How much did you get your second for?

I got one for $107 on Ebay the other day, do they keep going down? or up?
Title: Re: Where can I find a JB3????
Post by: philR on September 28, 2004, 04:56:48 PM
i got it by the buy it now from creative for $179.
Title: Re: Where can I find a JB3????
Post by: thierryhenry on September 28, 2004, 09:37:50 PM
That's tight.
Title: Re: Where can I find a JB3????
Post by: John R on September 29, 2004, 12:45:01 AM
i got another one before blues and brews.  1 for aud, 1 for line.

jr
Title: Re: Where can I find a JB3????
Post by: The Kilted Taper on September 29, 2004, 02:24:28 PM
Damn it...I knew I should have picked one up from Creative last week when this discussion was happening...Creative does not have anymore and they don't know if they will have anymore...

Title: Re: Where can I find a JB3????
Post by: John R on October 01, 2004, 06:13:40 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=75464&item=5723030719&rd=1
Title: Re: Where can I find a JB3????
Post by: wbrisette on October 04, 2004, 12:46:08 PM
I'm thinking of using the iRiver HD-140 as a backup to my DAT instead of trying to find the JB3. There are some issues with the iRiver unit, but overall I think it's a more sound investment since I don't have to try to use somebody's custom software to make it work on a Mac.

Wayne
Title: Re: Where can I find a JB3????
Post by: John Kelly on October 04, 2004, 08:01:47 PM
I'm thinking of using the iRiver HD-140 as a backup to my DAT instead of trying to find the JB3. There are some issues with the iRiver unit, but overall I think it's a more sound investment since I don't have to try to use somebody's custom software to make it work on a Mac.

Wayne

The Creative Mac driver works great for me.
Title: Re: Where can I find a JB3????
Post by: thierryhenry on October 05, 2004, 03:22:34 PM
Just an offshoot of this thread..

Does anyone have an extra Creative 5V AC Adapter that they don't need anymore? My unit didn't come with one, and I am in desperate need of one. Thanks.
Title: Re: Where can I find a JB3????
Post by: The Kilted Taper on October 05, 2004, 03:44:17 PM
Check the FAQ...lots of ways to power up the unit there.
Title: Re: Where can I find a JB3????
Post by: Brian Skalinder on October 05, 2004, 03:56:06 PM
My unit didn't come with one, and I am in desperate need of one [5v AC adapter].

You should be able to pick up a 5v, appropriately mA rated wallwart at RS or your local electronics shop easily enough.
Title: Re: Where can I find a JB3????
Post by: thierryhenry on October 06, 2004, 11:09:15 AM
I called Radioshack, and she said they have nothing nowhere that high in ma's. I think she said the highest was 1500ma or something. She said also if you got 5V and like 3000ma, it could overload the unit and blow the battery (not a good idea). So I am stuck waiting until Creative get's their charger in. Thanks for your help though. Brian.
Title: Re: Where can I find a JB3????
Post by: Brian Skalinder on October 06, 2004, 11:27:22 AM
Have you tried your local, non-RS electronics shop?  They're more likely than RS to have - or be able to get - what you need.  And my understanding of the mA rating is this:  the amperage rating can be far higher than the actual draw of the device because the device (NJB3) "pulls" the current from the wallwart, whereas it could be said the wallwart "pushes" the voltage to the device.  Completely non-electronics vocabulary here, but that's my general understanding.  Therefore, I think a 5v wallwart with > 2400 mA (or whatever the NJB3 wallwart spec is) should be okay.

Can any of you electronics dudes confirm this for me?
Title: Re: Where can I find a JB3????
Post by: thierryhenry on October 06, 2004, 01:41:59 PM
Well the lady @ RS wasn't much help, and I have no car here, so can't really go shopping around. I will be able to cruise around and look this weekend, but yeah someone told me before it's only the 5V that matters, (naturally if you had a 9V it would blow the fuse and overload the player causing it to disfunction), but the as long as it's 5V, the 2400ma MUST BE MET for sufficient power/charging; if it goes over, I don't think it causes anything bad.

Anyway, when I called Creative about when they would get "their" adapters in, I said if there was an alternative I could buy somewhere, and naturally he said no, because you "have to follow the exact specs listed that go with the Jb3, and wouldn't recommend plugging anything else into it."


I am still on my quest. Hopefully I will be able to use my fullycharged Jb3 on Saturday. Thanks Brian.
Title: Re: Where can I find a JB3????
Post by: F.O.Bean on October 06, 2004, 01:54:19 PM
also, if youre ONLY charging, your mah's shouldnt have to be nearly as high as when its in use, you could get away w/ something like 800mah IMO, just as long as you didnt try to turn the jb3 on while charging, because it only takes 1500mah or something like that when firing up :)

so get an 800-1400mah charger or whatever, and try it, i bet it works, it will just take a lil longer to charge ;)
Title: Re: Where can I find a JB3????
Post by: thierryhenry on October 06, 2004, 04:30:38 PM
Yeah I am using my Sharp 5V 800ma MiniDisc charger right now, and it's a SCIENCE to get it to charge correctly (like you described above), but yes, I do really need the official Creative one, because this is a pain in my ass. Thanks though.
Title: Re: Where can I find a JB3????
Post by: F.O.Bean on October 06, 2004, 07:07:20 PM
check wal-mart, im telling you ;)
Title: Re: Where can I find a JB3????
Post by: thierryhenry on October 07, 2004, 11:46:11 AM
check wal-mart, im telling you ;)

I will, thanks for putting up with me Bean.
Title: Re: Where can I find a JB3????
Post by: F.O.Bean on October 07, 2004, 02:16:34 PM
check wal-mart, im telling you ;)

I will, thanks for putting up with me Bean.

no problem bud, thanks to ts.com for putting up w/ me ;D
Title: Re: Where can I find a JB3????
Post by: jpschust on October 07, 2004, 02:18:51 PM
check wal-mart, im telling you ;)

I will, thanks for putting up with me Bean.

no problem bud, thanks to ts.com for putting up w/ me ;D

understatement of the motherfucking century :D
Title: Re: Where can I find a JB3????
Post by: F.O.Bean on October 07, 2004, 02:32:19 PM
check wal-mart, im telling you ;)

I will, thanks for putting up with me Bean.

no problem bud, thanks to ts.com for putting up w/ me ;D

understatement of the motherfucking century :D

isnt it jonny ;D
Title: Re: Where can I find a JB3????
Post by: thierryhenry on October 07, 2004, 03:01:39 PM
Ha.
Title: Re: Where can I find a JB3????
Post by: SparkE! on October 07, 2004, 05:53:40 PM
Also - are the ones being sold in GB any different than the ones being sold here in the US?  The GB ones are much cheaper than the US ones.
I've heard that the European models are modified to prevent the headphone jack from putting out as much voltage as the US version.  I guess it's to keep people from damaging their hearing.
Title: Re: Where can I find a JB3????
Post by: The Kilted Taper on October 07, 2004, 09:18:02 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=75464&item=5724276134&rd=1

boots in recovery mode....any thoughts on how easy a fix this may be??? Ends in just over an hour...

Title: Re: Where can I find a JB3????
Post by: F.O.Bean on October 07, 2004, 09:28:28 PM
dunno, sounds like the OS needs to be re-installed, if thats it, well then, for that price, i say go for it, if its junked, you could sell it for spare parts here :)
Title: Re: Where can I find a JB3????
Post by: thierryhenry on October 07, 2004, 09:32:20 PM
dunno, sounds like the OS needs to be re-installed, if thats it, well then, for that price, i say go for it, if its junked, you could sell it for spare parts here :)

Can't you do that for free on NomadMadness or whatever? If it is that simple, damn that's an amazing price.
Title: Re: Where can I find a JB3????
Post by: F.O.Bean on October 07, 2004, 10:41:41 PM
dunno, sounds like the OS needs to be re-installed, if thats it, well then, for that price, i say go for it, if its junked, you could sell it for spare parts here :)

Can't you do that for free on NomadMadness or whatever? If it is that simple, damn that's an amazing price.

all youd need to do is d/l the latest firmware/drivers from creatives website, save on your HD, then plug in the jb3 :)
Title: Re: Where can I find a JB3????
Post by: The Kilted Taper on October 07, 2004, 11:04:10 PM
Guess we won't find out. Lost in the last seconds....it was a battle...I was just too slow. Went for $50. Could be the deal of the century.
Title: Re: Where can I find a JB3????
Post by: SparkE! on October 08, 2004, 11:04:14 AM
I've heard that the European models are modified to prevent the headphone jack from putting out as much voltage as the US version.  I guess it's to keep people from damaging their hearing.
The European mod apparently is firmware, so if you load a regular version of the software, low headphone volume should not be a limitation.
Title: Re: Where can I find a JB3????
Post by: thierryhenry on October 08, 2004, 12:07:04 PM
Guess we won't find out. Lost in the last seconds....it was a battle...I was just too slow. Went for $50. Could be the deal of the century.

Haha, did you guys bid? I didn't just watched...But anyway, I'd be curious to know if this does work, if so, it's the deal of century.
Title: Re: Where can I find a JB3????
Post by: The Kilted Taper on October 13, 2004, 05:08:37 PM
OK, so these same folks now have one that powers on, but doesn't produce sound. That shouldn't be important of transfering to a computer....Any thoughts on this one?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=75464&item=5725656369&rd=1


Here's another going for $150 BIN. Says lineout doesn't work....

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=75464&item=5725752574&rd=1
Title: Re: Where can I find a JB3????
Post by: beeco on October 13, 2004, 07:28:37 PM
I just picked up a 40gb JB3 on eBay for $215 and it doesn't have to ship from overseas.  Looking forward to using it.  They are out there if you are patient and check often!
Title: Re: Where can I find a JB3????
Post by: SkaGuitarOAR on October 15, 2004, 11:09:56 AM
I saw one for 120 on there the other day, with only 20 GB, I'm pretty sure its still on there.
Title: Re: Where can I find a JB3????
Post by: thierryhenry on October 20, 2004, 11:08:41 AM
You can get one for sure now on Ebay, direct from Creative from $140. Great deal, pick one up now.