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Title: New software for JB3 (PC) Use JB3 under windows explorer...
Post by: Nick in Edinboro on September 28, 2004, 11:12:54 AM
General Link (http://us.creative.com/support/downloads/")

Link directly to software (hopefully it works). (http://us.creative.com/support/downloads/download.asp?Product_ID=296&Product_Name=NOMAD+Jukebox+3&DriverLang=1033&OS=10&DriverType=0&sOSName=Windows+XP&details=1")

This was released very recently on September 22nd of this year..  I installed and used it to dump about 30 albums onto my JB3 before a road trip I had down to Delaware last weekend.

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Creative NOMAD Explorer (Version 3.01.10)
NMEX-WEB-1-LA

Creative NOMAD Explorer enables you to conveniently manage your NOMAD player's music and data library with Microsoft® Windows® Explorer.

You can use Creative NOMAD Explorer to:

    * drag and drop songs and data files between your computer and NOMAD player
    * manage songs in your NOMAD player's music library
    * manage data files in your NOMAD player's data library
    * create and edit playlists on your NOMAD player
    * edit track properties in your NOMAD player's music library

After installing Creative NOMAD Explorer, you can find the NOMAD Explorer icon in Windows Explorer, under My Computer.

Requirements

    * Windows XP, Windows 2000, Windows Millennium Edition or Windows 98 Second Edition
    * Creative NOMAD Jukebox 2, 3, Zen, Zen USB2.0, Zen NX, Zen Xtra or Zen Touch
    * For NOMAD Jukebox 3 users only, driver version 1.04.06 (JB3_Drv.exe, dated 27 Aug 2002, 935 928 bytes) or later installed on your computer

Note

    *

      Creative NOMAD Explorer replaces Creative File Manager Version 1 and 2.
Title: Re: New software for JB3 (PC) Use JB3 under windows explorer...
Post by: caymanreview on September 28, 2004, 11:19:21 AM
NICE! i just ran the tracking number on my jb3, it is "out for delivery" so this is perfect timing... +T
Title: Re: New software for JB3 (PC) Use JB3 under windows explorer...
Post by: thierryhenry on September 28, 2004, 09:48:57 PM
Wait a second, does this replace getting that installation disc (are these all the programs that come on the disc). I bought a Jb3 recently off Ebay (haven't gotten it yet) but it doesn't come with the disc, so I sent out a B+P to someone who had the disc. Anyway, can I just download these to replace what is on the disc or what?


Thanks.
Title: Re: New software for JB3 (PC) Use JB3 under windows explorer...
Post by: caymanreview on September 28, 2004, 11:12:51 PM
nah, you have to have the disc to install the drivers and what-not onto your pc
Title: Re: New software for JB3 (PC) Use JB3 under windows explorer...
Post by: Ed. on September 29, 2004, 05:13:34 AM
i think all the drivers are on the creative website too, but having the disc is still handy.

this program is nice!
Title: Re: New software for JB3 (PC) Use JB3 under windows explorer...
Post by: dklein on September 29, 2004, 09:28:25 AM
If anyone needs to download the install disc just shoot me a pm and I'll give you ftp access.
Title: Re: New software for JB3 (PC) Use JB3 under windows explorer...
Post by: dklein on September 29, 2004, 09:30:04 AM
does this software give you access to your recordings too?  I remember the creative file manager allowed you to store and access files but it was like recorded music got stored in a different way and wouldn't appear in the list of files thru file manager.
Title: Re: New software for JB3 (PC) Use JB3 under windows explorer...
Post by: Ed. on September 29, 2004, 09:33:12 AM
yep, they're there.  i transferred some off of the njb3 last night.
Title: Re: New software for JB3 (PC) Use JB3 under windows explorer...
Post by: thierryhenry on September 29, 2004, 11:44:40 AM
If anyone needs to download the install disc just shoot me a pm and I'll give you ftp access.

Thanks.
Title: Re: New software for JB3 (PC) Use JB3 under windows explorer...
Post by: Nick in Edinboro on September 29, 2004, 03:43:49 PM
does this software give you access to your recordings too?  I remember the creative file manager allowed you to store and access files but it was like recorded music got stored in a different way and wouldn't appear in the list of files thru file manager.

Your right, in the previous version of this file manager only allowed you to access the non-music stuff (really dumb IMHO)..  This version seems to fix that issue allowing you to access everything.

It's a shame it's not plug and play on any computer and you'd need these drivers to use it but it's still a nicer integration into windows then we've had before.
Title: Re: New software for JB3 (PC) Use JB3 under windows explorer...
Post by: 1st set only on September 29, 2004, 05:02:40 PM
any word on if there will be a sucsessor to the jb3?
Title: Re: New software for JB3 (PC) Use JB3 under windows explorer...
Post by: silverbullet on September 29, 2004, 06:33:27 PM
I tried updating this on my laptop. 4pin to 4 pin. I have the latest firmware installed but after installing this latest driver I get a 'not connected' message in Nomand Explorer.

any ideas? I reinstalled a couple of times with reboots and still nothing. bummer
Title: Re: New software for JB3 (PC) Use JB3 under windows explorer...
Post by: Ed. on September 30, 2004, 01:38:33 AM
also to note: (on my computer at least) when you transfer files with this program, it puts them in a temp drive on my c: drive and then never deletes them when the copying is complete.  so if you notice a huge chunk of your hdd space missing...thats probably where it is.  i went from 10gigs > 3gigs in like 10 mins and never even put anything on the drive, i was really confused for a bit.
Title: Re: New software for JB3 (PC) Use JB3 under windows explorer...
Post by: caymanreview on September 30, 2004, 04:10:08 AM
I tried updating this on my laptop. 4pin to 4 pin. I have the latest firmware installed but after installing this latest driver I get a 'not connected' message in Nomand Explorer.

any ideas? I reinstalled a couple of times with reboots and still nothing. bummer

same here. i didnt have a chance to mess with it, and got it to work fine with playcenter, i got the constant "not connected" message with this software
Title: Re: New software for JB3 (PC) Use JB3 under windows explorer...
Post by: silverbullet on September 30, 2004, 07:25:24 AM
I'm scrambling to find my original JB3 installation disc. Anyway, after a couple more tries of installing the new software my screen goes to a full blue and white lettering waring mode and locks up.  :P

Oh well, I wanted something better but was happy with the play center. Don't need to fix something that isn't broke.

I wonder if some of the windows tweaks I did to optimize sound has something to do with my failure to intall NoMad Explorer. ???
Title: Re: New software for JB3 (PC) Use JB3 under windows explorer...
Post by: caymanreview on September 30, 2004, 07:28:45 AM
i have xp home with ZERO tweaks and cant get it to work, so it probably isnt that

i used playcenter for the whole time i had a jb3 before and had no problems...

i think im just gonna cough up 20$ for notmad explorer and be done though
Title: Re: New software for JB3 (PC) Use JB3 under windows explorer...
Post by: silverbullet on September 30, 2004, 10:26:35 AM
i have xp home with ZERO tweaks and cant get it to work, so it probably isnt that

i used playcenter for the whole time i had a jb3 before and had no problems...

i think im just gonna cough up 20$ for notmad explorer and be done though

Have you tried reinstalling the original cd yet?

I've been on my computer for an hour plus and I can't get my JB3 drivers installed. I've deleted all previous drivers and jb3 software and I can't intall using my original installation cd.

what could give me problems installing a jb3 driver now? I had no problems before.

let me know also how the $20 notmad works out if you go that route. I may have to at this point.
Title: Re: New software for JB3 (PC) Use JB3 under windows explorer...
Post by: silverbullet on September 30, 2004, 11:56:53 AM
I'm still stuck. I tried installing Notmad explorer trial version but it won't work without the drivers installed correctly.

I'm totally screwed. :P
Title: Re: New software for JB3 (PC) Use JB3 under windows explorer...
Post by: Nick in Edinboro on September 30, 2004, 01:13:38 PM
Silverbullet, what error messages are you getting?

You've uninstalled the drivers completely?  When you do a reinstall what error do you get? 

What "Windows Tweaking" for your sound card have you done?
Title: Re: New software for JB3 (PC) Use JB3 under windows explorer...
Post by: Nick in Edinboro on September 30, 2004, 01:14:43 PM
If your JB3 isn't up to the most recent firmware it might be an issue?  I finally bit the bullet a while back and updated to the most recent firmware.  Perhaps people with issues have an earlier firmware and are trying to run the most up to date driver/softwares?

Anyone running 1.32.x have any issues with this new software?
Title: Re: New software for JB3 (PC) Use JB3 under windows explorer...
Post by: Nick in Edinboro on September 30, 2004, 01:15:50 PM
Cayman and other, note in their requirements section for the software:
For NOMAD Jukebox 3 users only, driver version 1.04.06 (JB3_Drv.exe, dated 27 Aug 2002, 935 928 bytes) or later installed on your computer

Make sure you meet the requirement, as it might be a problem if not.
Title: Re: New software for JB3 (PC) Use JB3 under windows explorer...
Post by: silverbullet on September 30, 2004, 01:25:59 PM
I had the latest firmware 1.40.06.

the tweaking I did was the 20+ list for windows posted somewhere. Anyway, I looked over it and untweaked my computer but that didn't help. I was on the phone with Creative Labs for a fair amount of time. He suggested to perform a clean boot in Win XP but that didn't help me either.

Strange that I can't install or reinstall even my old driver from the installation disk. I must be overlooking something but can't figure it out. I'm just short of formating everything and starting over but I'll give it some more time in case someone else fell and got out of this same trap.

there error that I'm getting is "an error occurred while setting up the driver" and it doesn't get more specific than that.
Title: Re: New software for JB3 (PC) Use JB3 under windows explorer...
Post by: Nick in Edinboro on September 30, 2004, 01:37:40 PM
Have you tried installing the latest drivers at all?

Gotta love those vague errors :-( 
Title: Re: New software for JB3 (PC) Use JB3 under windows explorer...
Post by: silverbullet on September 30, 2004, 05:03:07 PM
Yes, I even tried installing the last two drivers offered on the net from Nomad.

If caymanreview doesn't run into the same problem then it must be a freak thing on my computer.
Title: Re: New software for JB3 (PC) Use JB3 under windows explorer...
Post by: Ed. on October 01, 2004, 01:30:12 AM
i'd do a complete virus check and run adaware and see if anything is on your computer...ya never know, it could be affecting it.  but i serioulsy, have no idea whats wrong.
Title: Re: New software for JB3 (PC) Use JB3 under windows explorer...
Post by: F.O.Bean on October 01, 2004, 03:15:51 AM
i just have been running adawre alot lately, and finally my pop-ups are gone :)
Title: Re: New software for JB3 (PC) Use JB3 under windows explorer...
Post by: F.O.Bean on October 01, 2004, 03:16:22 AM
i just have been running adawre alot lately, and finally my pop-ups are gone :)
Title: Re: New software for JB3 (PC) Use JB3 under windows explorer...
Post by: dklein on October 01, 2004, 09:46:03 PM
Did they have you try manually deleting the driver files?  I know in win2k they get copied to C:\WINNT\system32\drivers where they remain and are automatically called upon if found.  They can make reinstalling difficult.  Once you delete these copies you can try reinstalling again.