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Title: is this stealth rig good for a beginner?
Post by: matze on October 14, 2004, 12:09:33 PM

Hi, i'm a newbe and wanna start recording shows.

I read almost the entire forum and i'm stunned by all the abbreviations. ;)

I want two small devices. No preamp or external a/d.

I decided to go with a Sony NH900 or NH1 hi-md recorder and a ecm719 mic. These things are available for a decent price where i live.

Question: Are there any objections towards these devices? Why should i buy something else? Or is this stuff ok for a beginner?

Thanks.
Thomas

Title: Re: is this stealth rig good for a beginner?
Post by: jesse on October 14, 2004, 12:27:35 PM

for what you are paying for you're hi-md you could get a HD recorder and not have to buy expensive discs.
Other than media costs sounds good.  My first rig was mini disc>sony ecm-907

Title: Re: is this stealth rig good for a beginner?
Post by: Patrick on October 14, 2004, 03:26:32 PM

you get what you pay for.  I'm sure that mic is not going to sound great into a minidisc recorder.  I am not familiar with it, though.

Try to up the quality of your mics at least.

Good Luck

Title: Re: is this stealth rig good for a beginner?
Post by: The Kilted Taper on October 14, 2004, 03:33:29 PM

I would hunt down a JB3 (Saving you anywhere from $50 - $100+ over the MD) use the money you saved by getting the JB3 to up the mics. I think many will agree that mics should be priority #1. There are several options that should be in your price range and getting a JB3.

Title: Re: is this stealth rig good for a beginner?
Post by: neognosis on October 14, 2004, 04:23:08 PM

Yeah, sony mics get a thumbs down.  I like my Core Sounds.

Title: Re: is this stealth rig good for a beginner?
Post by: Ed. on October 15, 2004, 02:54:23 AM

i have some dynamic audio mics which that i'm trying to sell.  probably cheaper than the ecm and sound a lot better.  sorry for advertising these, but i need money for the v3 ;D

Title: Re: is this stealth rig good for a beginner?
Post by: matze on October 15, 2004, 03:31:03 AM

I heard some recordings from a ecm719 and md recorder and i liked them. If you consider this crap, maybe i should go to a doctor and have my ears checked ;)
I cant seem to find a jb3 over here.

Title: Re: is this stealth rig good for a beginner?
Post by: Ed. on October 15, 2004, 03:39:49 AM

if you have the time, do some comparisons

here is an ecm > md recording i did
http://www.archive.org/audio/etree-details-db.php?id=7965

and here is a DAB > md recording i did (same venue, same band)
http://www.archive.org/audio/etree-details-db.php?id=8005

i think you'll be able to tell the difference.  also, just out of curiousity, how much are paying for the ecm mic?  i bet i could beat that price on my DAB's

Title: Re: is this stealth rig good for a beginner?
Post by: matze on October 15, 2004, 04:18:59 AM

Thanks.
The emc is 75euro  (~$60)

Title: Re: is this stealth rig good for a beginner?
Post by: Ed. on October 15, 2004, 04:21:32 AM

yeah, i could probably do that...i don't know what shipping would be to europe tho.

ecm's are decent, i think they sound better if you're taping with them outside...but in my opinion, you can find better for near the same price.

Title: Re: is this stealth rig good for a beginner?
Post by: matze on October 15, 2004, 04:28:59 AM

75euro is $92, my mistake. Thats why shipping from the us would make sense.

Title: Re: is this stealth rig good for a beginner?
Post by: caymanreview on October 15, 2004, 04:39:06 AM

you can just ship to him, mark it as a gift and a value of like 10-15$ and he wont have to pay any duties im pretty sure

Title: Re: is this stealth rig good for a beginner?
Post by: Ed. on October 15, 2004, 04:52:02 AM

interesting, well feel free to pm me if you're interested and we'll talk.

Title: Re: is this stealth rig good for a beginner?
Post by: The Kilted Taper on October 15, 2004, 10:02:57 AM

Quote from: thomash on October 15, 2004, 03:31:03 AM

I cant seem to find a jb3 over here.

Where is overe here? There's a guy on eBay in the UK that's had refurb JB3's for sometime now. I believe someone on the board purchased a new LCD screen from him.....Here's one, not sure if it's the same guy:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=69947&item=5725389672&rd=1

Title: Re: is this stealth rig good for a beginner?
Post by: Brian_CT on October 15, 2004, 02:20:01 PM

Here's one I recorded with a Sony ECM-719 & MD:

Jason Mraz 5/22/04
http://www.archive.org/audio/etree-details-db.php?id=16663

Until I have $$ to upgrade, it works fine for me.

Title: Re: is this stealth rig good for a beginner?
Post by: firmdragon on October 15, 2004, 02:22:19 PM

yeah take EDs offer.  i personally wouldn't bother w/ the sonys.  you could also be real ballsy and declare them as "broken mics"  then price them at like $5.