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Title: Should I edit the clapper?
Post by: Lil Kim Jong-Il on November 02, 2004, 01:39:20 PM
My moe fob tape is pretty clean but there are clipped peaks where the dork next to us was clapping over his head and into the mics.  The music never clips.

Is it considered poor form to edit out the peaks of the clapper in files for distribution?

Title: Re: Should I edit the clapper?
Post by: bhtoque on November 02, 2004, 01:41:24 PM
If it sounds better go ahead and do it, just note it in the lineage.

JAson
Title: Re: Should I edit the clapper?
Post by: Lil Kim Jong-Il on November 02, 2004, 06:34:13 PM
My plan was to edit the wave form, dropping the peak closer to the level of the music.  The clapping would still be present but not right in your face.  On my home system, it's like that fucker is standing next to me in the room.





Title: Re: Should I edit the clapper?
Post by: Lil Kim Jong-Il on November 02, 2004, 07:14:54 PM
Yeah, I'm not into using the filters for soemthing like this.  Cool Edit lets you grab and pull the wave, so I just want to lower the peaks at the specific places.

Sad thing is, the guys squatted those seats at the break and I didn't run them off until the start of the encore.  Now I have extra work as payback for not being a dickhead.
Title: Re: Should I edit the clapper?
Post by: zhianosatch on November 03, 2004, 02:19:05 AM
My plan was to edit the wave form, dropping the peak closer to the level of the music.  The clapping would still be present but not right in your face.  On my home system, it's like that fucker is standing next to me in the room.







i do this all the time. :)
Title: Re: Should I edit the clapper?
Post by: Brian Skalinder on November 03, 2004, 02:58:48 AM
Instead of manually lowering the amplitude, try using compression.
Title: Re: Should I edit the clapper?
Post by: mmedley. on November 03, 2004, 10:24:03 AM
The pencil tool in WaveLab will work wonders.

 ;)
Title: Re: Should I edit the clapper?
Post by: Lil Kim Jong-Il on November 03, 2004, 10:38:30 AM
Instead of manually lowering the amplitude, try using compression.

I have considered the compression tool, but the problem is that the clapper is loud during parts of the music that have decent dynamic range and I want to bring him down lower than peaks of the music.  I'm worried that the compression tool will compress an entire range that I want to maintain in it's current form or just compress the clapper to match the musical peaks.

BTW, when I menaced him he moved toward you.  Sorry about that.

I'll try a compression tool on those areas and see what happens.  If it doesn't work out, I can just use the pencil to drop the wave forms at that point.  It will be a good time to fool around with the spectrum analyzer to see what my meddling does to the signal.  I always think this shit up after a few beers but then sobriety sets in and I don't get it done.


It seems like the consensus is that it's OK to edit the show for distribution.  It's not like many people will want this anyway.  I'm mostly just sending it to the kids I met in our row and I doubt they will be disappointed.
Title: Re: Should I edit the clapper?
Post by: Sloan Simpson on November 03, 2004, 04:46:07 PM
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Title: Re: Should I edit the clapper?
Post by: Lil Kim Jong-Il on November 03, 2004, 06:06:51 PM
I could get one of those and bonus, instant light show.
Title: Re: Should I edit the clapper?
Post by: Chapper on November 03, 2004, 08:16:30 PM
Funny you should mention it now...last two shows I went to, Dylan and Helmet, I got stuck next to a "loudclapper"...sounds like a Seinfeld term.   Good luck with the editiing...I won't ever get around to editing mine.
Stinkin' loudclappers.....
Title: Re: Should I edit the clapper?
Post by: Brian Skalinder on November 03, 2004, 08:23:23 PM
I have considered the compression tool, but the problem is that the clapper is loud during parts of the music that have decent dynamic range and I want to bring him down lower than peaks of the music.  I'm worried that the compression tool will compress an entire range that I want to maintain in it's current form or just compress the clapper to match the musical peaks.

Easy peasy.  Just zoom in enough so you can isolate the single spike and apply compression only to the very brief spike.  On such a very short scale, such a small number of samples, It's not fundamentally different than using the pencil or gain adjustment tool to remove / redraw the spike's curve below the level of the music, it's just easier IME.