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Title: DAT > CD help....
Post by: mikencphan on November 15, 2004, 03:13:16 PM
ok so i got my Sony D8 and   Easy Media creator 7<-------(will this work).... im not so good with Tecn. stuff so what eles do i need to do to get my dats onto CD...

I would love as much info as you can provide,   how do i know if i need a sound card?  what cables do i need?  where do i plug in the dat into the Computer?  ECT..

thank you so much for your help..  and yes i check the Archive and could not find it..
Title: Re: DAT > CD help....
Post by: twatts (pants are so over-rated...) on November 15, 2004, 04:10:21 PM
Here are the Seeding Guidleines from Wiki.Etree.  Pretty much the standard on how to do all this...

http://wiki.etree.org/index.php?page=SeedingGuidelines

Actually, now that I've read the Guidleines, they're pretty crappy...

There are several options, the best being, buying a BIT-PERFECT digital soundcard.  DO NOT EVER EVER EVER BUY A CREATIVE SOUNDBLASTER NO MATTER WHAT THE SALESPERSON TELLS YOU.  You might as well just throw your money in the garbage, 'cause that's about how much the SoundCrapsters are worth.

Instead, buy a Zoltrix, or M-Audio 2496, or a slew of other very nice cards that are BIT-PERFECT.

Download CDWave, or Soundforge, or CoolEdit.  Rig up the card, imput the D8 Digital signal and hit record on the computer.  Viola.

Terry
Title: Re: DAT > CD help....
Post by: dnsacks on November 15, 2004, 04:14:24 PM
fundamental question -- do you have a digital cable for your d7?  you need to have a digital cable to export the digital data recorded by the dat deck into your computer.

If twatts great explanation above makes absolutely no sense to you, you might be better off picking up a standalone cd burner.  this would enable you to play your dat right onto a cd
Title: Re: DAT > CD help....
Post by: greenone on November 16, 2004, 10:20:35 AM
Here are the Seeding Guidleines from Wiki.Etree.  Pretty much the standard on how to do all this...

http://wiki.etree.org/index.php?page=SeedingGuidelines

Actually, now that I've read the Guidleines, they're pretty crappy...

So fix 'em! That's what a wiki's for. :)
Title: Re: DAT > CD help....
Post by: SparkE! on November 16, 2004, 02:40:02 PM
There are several options, the best being, buying a BIT-PERFECT digital soundcard.  DO NOT EVER EVER EVER BUY A CREATIVE SOUNDBLASTER NO MATTER WHAT THE SALESPERSON TELLS YOU.  You might as well just throw your money in the garbage, 'cause that's about how much the SoundCrapsters are worth.

Again, I'm going to disagree with you, Terry.  I know that this is not a popular notion among tapers, but not all Soundblasters resample on capture from a S/PDIF source.  I agree that the Soundblaster Live! series of soundcards resampled EVERYTHING, whether it needed it or not.  I mean you could apply a 48 kHz S/PDIF source to the S/PDIF input to the Soundblaster Live! card and it would still resample it... with samples aligned to its own 48 kHz clock which usually runs a little bit fast.

However, the Soundblaster Audigy 2 series of cards does not resample digital inputs and such inputs will not be resampled unless your recording software is configured to record at a different rate than it's receiving.  With most recording software, you'll get a bit literal copy of what you put in.

On the other hand, Soundblaster Audigy 2 cards do resample 44.1 kHz sources to 48 kHz on playback, but that's only used to drive the soundcard's D/A converters.  It doesn't do anything to the 44.1 kHz source itself.

So, if your main concern is to transfer a bit literal copy of the PCM data on your DAT tape to a hard drive on your computer, a Soundblaster Audigy 2 series soundboard will work just fine.  However, you can do the same thing for less money with an Audiophile 2496 or a Zoltrix Nightengale (so I'm told).  I've personally used both the Audiophile 2496 and the Soundblaster Audigy 2 Platinum.  They both produce bit literal copies every time, verified by making 2 copies, inverting one, lining them up in a multitrack editor and mixing them down, yielding absolute silence, with the exception of the short period of time at the beginning of a transfer where the soundcard is trying to synch up to the source.  It's common to get some bit errors in the first few hundred samples.  Actually, the Soundblaster Audigy 2 Platinum card that I use synchs up faster than the Audiophile 2496, so I actually get slightly better results with the Soundblaster.  But, once the cards are synched to the source, they produce absolutely identical results.

There's more on this topic in another recent thread that went on for about 4 pages so far:

http://www.taperssection.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=23651.0