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Title: which dither to use in CEP?
Post by: Tall Adam on December 17, 2004, 07:14:08 PM
so ive been using shaped gaussian with noise shaping (44.1) recenly to convert 24/96 in audition 1.5 (formerly CEP). i like it but after doing some down sampling on silence and graphing the results i notice that this dither/noise shaping seems to introduce alot of noise. i was just wondering what others people used and why?
Title: Re: which dither to use in CEP?
Post by: Tim on December 17, 2004, 07:22:41 PM
dither is, by definition, the addition of noise.

here's a website with some basic info... I'm sure someone else will have a better site
http://www.earlevel.com/Digital%20Audio/Dither.html
Title: Re: which dither to use in CEP?
Post by: Tall Adam on December 17, 2004, 09:00:13 PM
yes, i understand the definition, guess i shoulda been more clear eh?  :P it seems that that noise shaping/dither combo is very present in the audible range. if i remember correctly it had some significant noise in the 8k range (maybe im off here) so im wondering if theres one in CEP thats more transparent so to speak...
Title: Re: which dither to use in CEP?
Post by: Tim on December 17, 2004, 09:25:34 PM
Sorry, didn't mean to sell you short... you just never know so I default to the basics. :)

what are your options? It's been forever since I even used CEP. fwiw - Wavelab uses Apogee's UV22HR process...
Title: Re: which dither to use in CEP?
Post by: Tall Adam on December 17, 2004, 09:49:07 PM
options are just different names in CEP. i have UV22HR (and not HR) in cubase SX...but ive never been able to get either to work. any advice there...
Title: Re: which dither to use in CEP?
Post by: caymanreview on December 18, 2004, 04:31:16 AM
Quote from: GQJSP on December 17, 2004, 09:49:07 PM
options are just different names in CEP. i have UV22HR (and not HR) in cubase SX...but ive never been able to get either to work. any advice there...

get wavelab. if you need a hookup- pm me!
Title: Re: which dither to use in CEP?
Post by: Tim on December 18, 2004, 11:15:06 AM
Quote from: caymanreview on December 18, 2004, 04:31:16 AM
Quote from: GQJSP on December 17, 2004, 09:49:07 PM
options are just different names in CEP. i have UV22HR (and not HR) in cubase SX...but ive never been able to get either to work. any advice there...

get wavelab. if you need a hookup- pm me!

that would be my advice... get wavelab.
Title: Re: which dither to use in CEP?
Post by: Brian Skalinder on December 18, 2004, 05:35:10 PM
Is UV22HR available as a plug-in anywhere?  Curious minds want to know...
Title: Re: which dither to use in CEP?
Post by: caymanreview on December 18, 2004, 05:40:46 PM
Quote from: Brian Skalinder on December 18, 2004, 05:35:10 PM
Is UV22HR available as a plug-in anywhere?  Curious minds want to know...

not that im aware of

do you need a copy of wavelab 5.0a to demo Brian?
Title: Re: which dither to use in CEP?
Post by: Brian Skalinder on December 18, 2004, 05:46:48 PM
Quote from: caymanreview on December 18, 2004, 05:40:46 PM
not that im aware of

do you need a copy of wavelab 5.0a to demo Brian?

Thanks, Dustin.  Just curious, that's all.  I'll pass on Wavelab - I'm still only 16-bit for now, so I wouldn't use it, anyway.
Title: Re: which dither to use in CEP?
Post by: caymanreview on December 18, 2004, 08:18:13 PM
Quote from: Brian Skalinder on December 18, 2004, 05:46:48 PM
Quote from: caymanreview on December 18, 2004, 05:40:46 PM
not that im aware of

do you need a copy of wavelab 5.0a to demo Brian?

Thanks, Dustin.  Just curious, that's all.  I'll pass on Wavelab - I'm still only 16-bit for now, so I wouldn't use it, anyway.

but eventually you will be at 24, might as well get used to wavelab now ;)
Title: Re: which dither to use in CEP?
Post by: Tall Adam on December 19, 2004, 10:58:56 PM
nevermind, think i got it