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Gear / Technical Help => Microphones & Setup => Topic started by: charles on December 22, 2004, 05:37:06 PM
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Just had this on my mind and was curious if anyone has ever done it. What I'm thinking of is this: running two sd cards and an ld omni together. Has anyone done this before. If so, how did it go. What configs did you use? What are pros and cons, etc.
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This configuration is another configuration I used. Typically I use this when I'm in a very small club and don't have the room to setup my 4 mic configuration. Instead I run two cards in ORTF (SR-77's), and then clamp on one omni mic just below those. The omni gets feed into both the left and right channel. The result can be stunning when mixed properly.
As long as you use cards (of some sort) and an omni, it doesn't matter if these are a mixture of small and large diaphram mics. What matters is getting the levels set properly, then mixing the proper amount of the omni mic into each channel.
There seems to be an interest in multi-microphone configurations and I would urge everybody considering it to try a few shows like this. When done right, you'll never want to go back to stereo mics again. However, and this is the big however, you will need a mixer. This can be either a 3 channel mixer or 4 channel, but you'll need a mixer. I've been using the Wendt X4 for a few years and while it's now for sale (now using a multi-channel hard drive recorder), it was the bread and butter of my rig. Shure makes a 3 & 4 channel mixer, Wendt makes a 2, 4, and 5 channel mixer, Sound Designs makes a 4 channel mixer, and there are loads of other companies making ENG mixers for field use. All of these run off batteries and most use very little power. These types of mixers are designed to be "beaten to death" as they are abused daily in the film and video industry.
Hope this helps.
Wayne
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Thanks for the info....+T. What about using a ua-5?
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Thanks for the info....+T. What about using a ua-5?
When you use more than 2 mics, you need more than 2 inputs. The UA-5 only allows 2 channel recording according to the specs.
Wayne
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OK. I was just curious seeing as people do run matrix with ua-5's using the analog input in the back. I've never done it and I don't know anything about......just curious.
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I don't have the UA-5, so I'm not sure how they are doing it. I just read the specs and it clearly states that it only provides 2 channels for recording. I'm puzzled.
Wayne
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Wayne,
On the UA-5 you can use both mic inputs and on front and the rca inputs on the back simultaneously. The only drawback is that one would probably need a line transformer when going into the RCAs. Also, one would need self-powered mics or be able to supply the mic(s) w/ power when using the RCA inputs. Oh, also, the knob on the back of the UA-5 that controls the RCA inputs doesn't allow you to adjust L/R levels.
I've been thinking of doing this for the next show I tape. Use one TL (omni) in the middle and two Peluso's as the stereo pair.
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I've been thinking of doing this for the next show I tape. Use one TL (omni) in the middle and two Peluso's as the stereo pair.
If you want to use my Wendt, just let me know. There isn't much on the musical road map right now from what I can tell...
Thanks for the info on the UA5. Just goes to show you can't always believe the specs. ;-)
Wayne