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Gear / Technical Help => Ask The Tapers => Topic started by: Nick's Picks on January 18, 2005, 07:52:19 AM
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If you had an AD1000 as the "heart and soul" of your rig...what mics do you think sound best with it?
just curious...as i'm probably in that boat. i'm leaning towards any AKG product.
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If you had an AD1000 as the "heart and soul" of your rig...what mics do you think sound best with it?
just curious...as i'm probably in that boat. i'm leaning towards any AKG product.
wooo weee, hope you didn't spend much on it...most people would say hotdogs and grilled cheese but I think you are right w/ the akg's. Gotta love an old ad1k that is still kickin' :D put a 148 in front of it...any pre being used?
peace
jah
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schoeps->v2
everything sounds good with an ad1k....
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the oak mtn panic money rig
schoeps>m248>ad1000
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I will say Neumann U89, just b/c of how sick those Big Cypress FOB's are. :)
But I agree with Tim, just about anything sounds good in front of that grilled-cheese maker, especially when paired with a V2. Some of my fave Phish section tapes were B&K4011>V2>AD1000.
BC
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i always loved my nassau 4/2/98 phish copies, theyre 4022>ad1k and damn theyre suite. so upclose and in your face!
i do LOVE the 480>ad1k sound too, also the 414 ULS>ad1k
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schoeps->v2
everything sounds good with an ad1k....
What he said! I'm not a fan of the AD1K pre so I'd run a pre...
Man I miss my Apogee...it has a fresh word clock but the power supply went.... :'(
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the 1000 came to me ....very cheaply.
I am really enchanted by its sound. I've run 414s and the c34 in front of it, and pulled the best recordings of last year w/either of these combos. I have access to the c34 whenever I want, and i'll probably own 414s again, so I guess i'm good.
I dont mind the sond of the stock preamp in it either. In fact, I like it.
I'd like to offer up a recording of the Jazz Mandolin Project
c34 cards @ 90 > AD1000 > JB3 as proof of what this sounds like. I think its my best recording of 2004.
I can't upload...but I can mail copies.
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I had a 500e for quite a few years. To me no one has come close to replicating the sound of the old apogee's with the new converters. m148->V3 was as close as I could find...
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Nick -- I'd strongly consider the studio projects lsd2 as well -- I'm thinking the ad1k could compliment its sound QUITE nicely. I find the lsd2 to sound quite similar to the various ld akg permutations out there.
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the 1000 came to me ....very cheaply.
I am really enchanted by its sound. I've run 414s and the c34 in front of it, and pulled the best recordings of last year w/either of these combos. I have access to the c34 whenever I want, and i'll probably own 414s again, so I guess i'm good.
I dont mind the sond of the stock preamp in it either. In fact, I like it.
I'd like to offer up a recording of the Jazz Mandolin Project
c34 cards @ 90 > AD1000 > JB3 as proof of what this sounds like. I think its my best recording of 2004.
I can't upload...but I can mail copies.
nick, id love to trade you a JMP show for a JMP show if youre down, i can spin tonite :)
If youre down, PM me bud!
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I was a BIG fan of all the Phish tapes made in and around '99 that were simply Schoeps>AD1K. Some of my favorite tapes....
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I had a 500e for quite a few years. To me no one has come close to replicating the sound of the old apogee's with the new converters. m148->V3 was as close as I could find...
So you think the MMe sounds significantly different from the AD1000/500? Just wondering, never really heard any comparisions.
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I had a 500e for quite a few years. To me no one has come close to replicating the sound of the old apogee's with the new converters. m148->V3 was as close as I could find...
So you think the MMe sounds significantly different from the AD1000/500? Just wondering, never really heard any comparisions.
mic in for sure... the minime is bloated for sure. Mic in I think the minime has a little darker, heavier coloration to than the older units... this is reduced run linein but I still hear it. I like the minime line in, mic in notsomuch... to me it just doesn't come close to the older units though. I went straight from a 500e to a minime and the difference was pretty dramatic...
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^^^^^
with all the cheap minime's floating around, I have been mulling over grabbing one and trading in my tmod UA5 so that i could do 24 bit easier/bit perfect with the apogee.....
but I will have to do some listening to some shows where the taper used the mme solely as the pre/ad as i want to
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so that i could do 24 bit easier/bit perfect with the apogee.....
Why would the Apogee be easier and any more bit-transparent than the UA5? ???
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just heard all the stories that the UA5s don't prefrom well at 24 bit and the mme's with USB out do fine
not to knck my tmod at all....
just with the cheap price of used mme's and my never ending jones for fresh gear, and just got some new to me MG300s that I would like to test with various pres
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I personally agree w/trey schoeps>m248(low gain)>ad1000(wide open). I've heard the same rig run differently
with crappy results. I also ran and really liked the 480>m148>ad1000, just ot as defined as the schoeps combo I thought.
I miss my ad1000, still runs just loses it lock on the clock and has to cycle to find it.over & over.
callery
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fwiw - it is my understanding that the minime really shines at 24bit... I haven't listened to it but I have had a few people tell me this.
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I shouldn't do this, 'cause I love the MBHO603a >> AD1000 tapes, but in the grilled cheese vein:
(http://minnetonka.govoffice.com/vertical/Sites/%7bDF54EBCC-1BBC-46C9-9C5A-B651B22349B4%7d/uploads/%7bFDEDAAB4-942A-454E-82A1-120D23C7D0C5%7d_WEB.jpg)
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i would agree with trey and tim. schoeps>v2 or m248. check out wsp 4.28.02 (mixon) for the 248 and wsp 11.25.00 (hubert) for a nice 4v>v2>ad1k tape. I could send you a few tracks of each.....LMK
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Schoeps > Nt222 > M148 > Ad1K.
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schoeps->v2
everything sounds good with an ad1k....
Agreed.
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schoeps->v2
everything sounds good with an ad1k....
Agreed.
What about Nak CM300's > AD1000 > JB3 ? Any feelings on how that would sound?
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I think the consensus is Schoeps. I love the 64's with AD1k, esp. with a PSP3 in font of it.
Check out Phish Japan 2000 for some good comparisons:
64>SX-M2>AD1k vs. 64>PSP3>SBM1 both sound amazing, but different IMO.
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my favorite combo was my old one:
AKG483>V2>AD1K
But I'm really starting to like how it shines with my 148
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just heard all the stories that the UA5s don't prefrom well at 24 bit and the mme's with USB out do fine
if you are running 24/96 lappy then the UA5 can be flaky b/c USB is working hard to keep up with the stream. some have no problem, others have drops. running 24/48 is the way to go if using a laptop.
as for 24/96 UA5 > microtrack I don't forsee any problem at all. noone has actually done it yet b/c of the problems with the m-audio device at the moment, but i see no reason to buy a mme (i almost did twice in the past month) since the UA5 is going to kick some major ass at 24/96 into the microtrack.
either way, the only advantage of the mme to me, is that is has the ability to output a 24 and 16 bit digital signal at the same time.
the ergonomics of the box suck big time, and i am def. sticking with the ua5 for 24/96 > microtrack
schoeps all the way. i like the vms02ib pre-amp (schoeps) use the actives and then your choice of capsules.
also the m248 sounds amazing with WSP and schoeps+ad1k
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aaahhh...my apogee dreams are long dead.
that was what...10 months ago?
:)
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aaahhh...my apogee dreams are long dead.
that was what...10 months ago?
:)
Yes, sorry, I resurrected this post. I was wondering what Nak CM300's > AD1000 > JB3 would sound like. I'm buying an AD1000 from the yard sale from K.C. The AD1000 and the JB3 seem like an awesome match, Toslink to Toslink, 16 bit signal. And good flexibility down the line with phantom power and pre-amp if I change mics and 20 bit if I change recorder.
The only downside seems to be the amp draw which is ~1 amp. So big batteries are a must. Is that why it's called a grilled cheese maker?
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it gets hot.
but it sounds hotter.
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Is it just me, or is there a picture of a face on that grilled cheese? :laugh:
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my ad1k makes the headiest virgin mary grilled cheese
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funny...
as it turns out..
i'll be running 140>ad1k>dap1 for a few shows.
kickin' it old school
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funny...
as it turns out..
i'll be running 140>ad1k>dap1 for a few shows.
kickin' it old school
NH ?
I'll bet it sounds damn good.
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yea. tonight..and then likely for SKB later this month. Sounds like Doug is never getting those damn'd caps for the 671. so everyone on that waiting list is on a no information, indefinate "hold".
i'm tempted to spend nearly 1/2 the money for the 660.