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Title: Intense Summer Heat and Taping?
Post by: radiohead_dpa on January 27, 2005, 01:44:55 PM
Will be hitting Coachella this year and was thinking about audio or even possibly minidv video recording.  However my biggest concern is the heat as you are practically in desert conditions there with well over 100 degree weather. 

How well do DAT, MD, JB3, minidv with heat?  Any tips or pointers?  ???
Title: Re: Intense Summer Heat and Taping?
Post by: radiohead_dpa on January 27, 2005, 01:45:32 PM
PS this will be stealthing FYI....
Title: Re: Intense Summer Heat and Taping?
Post by: The Kilted Taper on January 27, 2005, 01:47:19 PM
The JB3 may cause issues with heat. I know other's have expereienced this.
Title: Re: Intense Summer Heat and Taping?
Post by: fozzy on January 27, 2005, 05:31:35 PM
The JB3 may cause issues with heat. I know other's have expereienced this.


The JB3 will definately not survive the heat unless you have a way to cool it.  For festies i keep mine in a ziplock bag in the waterpouch of my camelbak.  A D8 should also survive the heat.  dunno about md's
Title: Re: Intense Summer Heat and Taping?
Post by: snoknight on March 18, 2005, 04:33:15 PM
anyone remember Sam Boyd Silver Bowl G.D. shows when it was 119+ had me an old Sony MZ-1. (1992 MD recorder) the unit would randomly overload on any given day, cold or hot it would just cook itself, almost too hot to touch, but... it still seemed to record... My imported sharp was a champ last summer in 90+ temps with 80+ humidity and no issues were encountered. Most units will run in ambient temps of 109 and above, from the specs i have rousted up. California im bettin' will be mild compared to other years, maby wet... but that is just a guess... see you there...
Dave
Title: Re: Intense Summer Heat and Taping?
Post by: Brian Skalinder on March 18, 2005, 04:43:19 PM
The JB3 will definately not survive the heat unless you have a way to cool it.

I think that's a bit of a strong statement.  I've recorded with my JB3 in sunny, hot, humid, sweltering conditions without difficulty.  YMMV.  Best to keep it out of direct sunlight - I use a small umbrella to shade my gear.  And I keep the bag open so the JB3 can breathe.  Haven't had a problem yet.
Title: Re: Intense Summer Heat and Taping?
Post by: hexyjones on March 18, 2005, 04:45:40 PM
You have to look at the JB3 on per-unit basis...they all seem to behave differently when it comes to heat...

One of mine wont run in any heat - another seems to have no known limits...
Title: Re: Intense Summer Heat and Taping?
Post by: fozzy on March 18, 2005, 05:22:05 PM
The JB3 will definately not survive the heat unless you have a way to cool it.

I think that's a bit of a strong statement.  I've recorded with my JB3 in sunny, hot, humid, sweltering conditions without difficulty.  YMMV.  Best to keep it out of direct sunlight - I use a small umbrella to shade my gear.  And I keep the bag open so the JB3 can breathe.  Haven't had a problem yet.

breathing is the key but for stealth taping it isn't much of an option generally.  The times i have killed a JB3 was zipped up in my bag while recording
Title: Re: Intense Summer Heat and Taping?
Post by: rowjimmytour on March 18, 2005, 05:41:09 PM
 ;D
Title: Re: Intense Summer Heat and Taping?
Post by: setboy on March 18, 2005, 06:33:41 PM
nice rowjimmy


Raphael
Title: Re: Intense Summer Heat and Taping?
Post by: F.O.Bean on March 18, 2005, 06:42:16 PM
;D

i betcha direct sunlight would still shut down the jb3

great creativity tho ;D
Title: Re: Intense Summer Heat and Taping?
Post by: bmr on March 18, 2005, 06:44:19 PM
+T Jimmy, how do you have that hooked up exactly? I have a spare 80mm fan in my closet waiting to be used on something like that...
Title: Re: Intense Summer Heat and Taping?
Post by: hexyjones on March 18, 2005, 06:48:32 PM
So lets paint our festy JB3s flat white... ;D

Has anyone taken a drill to their JB3 case to provide extra "air conditioning"?

Sooner or later Im going to swap the HD out of my more heat sensitive JB3...if that doesnt help - its the DRILL!
Title: Re: Intense Summer Heat and Taping?
Post by: F.O.Bean on March 18, 2005, 06:52:35 PM
So lets paint our festy JB3s flat white... ;D

Has anyone taken a drill to their JB3 case to provide extra "air conditioning"?

Sooner or later Im going to swap the HD out of my more heat sensitive JB3...if that doesnt help - its the DRILL!

robc on here has his faceplate removed for extra airflow, so thats always an option :)
Title: Re: Intense Summer Heat and Taping?
Post by: Brian Skalinder on March 18, 2005, 07:37:20 PM
breathing is the key but for stealth taping it isn't much of an option generally.

Ahhhh...didn't realize this is a stealth venture.
Title: Re: Intense Summer Heat and Taping?
Post by: rowjimmytour on March 20, 2005, 08:04:26 PM
bmr  I have fan leads (two) soldered to two anderson plugs (unisex) or ya could use ratshack rc plugs or whatever and this plugs into my ratshack r/c battery.
Peace
Title: Re: Intense Summer Heat and Taping?
Post by: dgale on March 20, 2005, 09:53:24 PM
For non-stealth shows I always make sure to create some shade over the gear (someone mentioned an umbrella) and also bring some white hand towels to cover your gear - most decks and gear are black, which is not a good combo.  For either stealth or non-stealth you may want to consider not stacking gear - I know my SBM-1 runs very hot on it's own, so I'd hate to stack a D8 on top of it in a really hot condition.  I remember stealthing Dylan and Phil in the cow barn in Medford OR and jesus was it miserably hot in that big tin shed - I had my SBM and D8 right next to each other in a fanny pack like usual and the D8 went wacky and kept shutting off due to the heat (right in the middle of Positively 4th Street   :() - in hindsight had I not had them right next to each other it wouldn't have happened, as the heat from the SBM pushed the D8 over the edge.

One thought for a stealth job would be to use something like a blue ice pack and triple ziplock it so there's no moisture and put that near the gear in a fanny pack to keep things cool...just a thought. 
Title: Re: Intense Summer Heat and Taping?
Post by: Karl on March 20, 2005, 10:28:26 PM
I live in Phoenix and have used my JB3 in July outside with no problem.  Not in direct sunlight, but that would be dumb anyways.