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Title: How long for DVD audio?
Post by: Karl on January 27, 2005, 02:19:58 PM
So, how long until DVD audio becomes a commonplace?  Until you can go to the store and buy a car deck, or a home deck, or a boombox, and they play DVD's?  And what format will it be?  Until the current CD goes the way of the 8 track, cassette tape, and old-school vinyl records?
Title: Re: How long for DVD audio?
Post by: dnsacks on January 27, 2005, 02:47:39 PM
My take is that with respect to the portable market, probably never.  Home decks are now commonplace as are dvda/sacd titles.  However, portable music seems to be trending further and further toward portability via lossy compression (i.e. mp3s, etc.).  Thus, with current mass market technology for portable listening favoring fidelity that's significantly lower than that provided by ordinary cds, there seems to be no real incentive for the mass market manufacturers to create portable (car/boombox) dvd-a or sacd players. 

Title: Re: How long for DVD audio?
Post by: nickgregory on January 27, 2005, 02:53:00 PM
agreed, I think you will see popular music mass distributed in mp3 before you will DVD-A or SACD
Title: Re: How long for DVD audio?
Post by: fsulloway on January 27, 2005, 03:05:10 PM
FWIW- Kenwood makes an in dash DVDA player. I believe the price was around $550.
Title: Re: How long for DVD audio?
Post by: George on January 27, 2005, 03:30:43 PM
I don't see dvd-a or sacd ever taking off, in fact, on head-fi people are always brining up that both formats are on the verge of beng abandoned and i believe it.  Go to your local music shop...how many titles of each format do they carry?  Probably less than a hundred.  I think the cd format is going to stick around for a much longer time.  It hits supply and demand smack in the middle, plus, i've heard (and own) several cd's that are of stellar sound quality.  Your average joe who owns several hundred cds and doesn't care about 5.1 or frequency sweeps doesn't give a damn about some new format that's trying to replace his awesome $100 entry level cd player (probably a dvd player too). 

I think i'll stick to my 16/44 bliss with my Sennheiser electrostatic headphones   ;D

Hell, i consider vinyl a better choice than sacd or dvd-a.
Title: Re: How long for DVD audio?
Post by: 1st set only on January 28, 2005, 09:41:29 AM
I wouldnt mind seeing dvd players in cars that played MP3 discs. it would be better and cheaper than having your ipod/mp3 player in the car. 4.7 gigs of mp3 is a lot of music.
Title: Re: How long for DVD audio?
Post by: George on January 28, 2005, 06:02:23 PM
I wouldnt mind seeing dvd players in cars that played MP3 discs. it would be better and cheaper than having your ipod/mp3 player in the car. 4.7 gigs of mp3 is a lot of music.

Yeah, i would love to see a DVD mp3 discman come out, that would be killer...Sony, are you listening?

Title: Re: How long for DVD audio?
Post by: BobW on January 29, 2005, 07:34:02 AM
Sony's SACD manure/manuever will likely kill both formats.

Because DVD-A  is an available recording/trading format, I like it much better than SACD.

I hope that the industry continues to back DVD-A. 
The ownership of both artist rights and proprietary recording technology is a (foreign) monolpoly that should be made illegal.

I am currently listening to an onstage recording made at 24/96 (on a vintage PDA!) that is clearly more detailed, more "open",
and albeit slightly, better sounding than 16/44.  Leaps and bounds better than an MP3.
It is getting burned as a DVD-A next. 

Try to do that with SACD.
But, to answer the question.  As long as I have a DVD burner and player, DVD-A lives in my little world.
Buy a player(cheap), buy some DVD-As. 
The industry will support what the people want. Even Sony went from Betamax to VHS.
Title: Re: How long for DVD audio?
Post by: macdaddy on January 29, 2005, 09:03:52 AM
from what i understand, both formats are already being phased out...

Title: Re: How long for DVD audio?
Post by: nickgregory on January 29, 2005, 09:15:04 AM
from what i understand, both formats are already being phased out...



I have heard that for a couple of years...but have seen neither side officially moving to anything...
Title: Re: How long for DVD audio?
Post by: macdaddy on January 29, 2005, 09:50:31 AM
i have been told to not expect anymore commercial sacd titles :( ditto for dvd-a

we'll see if it holds true - the roll-out of new tech, and phase-out of the old tech always takes longer than the companies target (look at hdtv), but the writing is definitely on the wall.