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Title: Taping from non so good positions
Post by: redbook on January 28, 2005, 10:09:09 AM
I was just reading the hansonblueeyes fan thread about taping from 1st row.
We all know that 1st row it's not the best place to tape, but how would be taping from the following scenarios?

-"Semi front row": we are not in 1st row, but very close. Let's say 10-15 meters from stage.
- Seats: 45% angle from stage.
- The very rear of the big stadiums.

I plan to see some "big bands" this year (U2, REM), which you can't really choose your place, it really depends on ticketmaster, lol


Thanks
Title: Re: Taping from non so good positions
Post by: nickgregory on January 28, 2005, 10:15:16 AM
-"Semi front row": we are not in 1st row, but very close. Let's say 10-15 meters from stage.

depends on teh band...if they use IEMs, (ie no monitors on the stage) you may not get a good tape...that being said, I have seen shows where the band has PA speakers on the front of the stage pointing out to the audience...good tapes have been made there...

- Seats: 45% angle from stage.

where the seats are dont matter...in that position, you will likely get a stack tape...which can sound solid.
 
- The very rear of the big stadiums.

dont bother...too boomy and too echo'ey
Title: Re: Taping from non so good positions
Post by: Jeff F on January 28, 2005, 05:16:30 PM
I once taped from the front row, but I thought I was 10th row.  I bought tickets for The Who in 2002 and the way the venue laid out, Deer Creek, I was 1st row; on paper I was 10th row.  I was seated just below the left stack and even though they taped from the board, I wanted an AUD.  I pointed my mics straight up (normally not a good idea, of course) and pulled a wicked tape.  It was a huge rush taping so close to security.  At times, some big dude would stand right by me which wasn't very appealing, scary is more like it.

So, this is probably different from the norm.  I know a friend has taped from very close and caught the stage monitors.  Even though I was seated further back, I was able to pull a stonger tape since I was hitting the stacks.

I guess it all depends how the venue lays out.
Title: Re: Taping from non so good positions
Post by: BobW on January 29, 2005, 07:45:34 AM

- The very rear of the big stadiums.

dont bother...too boomy and too echo'ey

Depends on reinforcement, it is remotely possible to pull a good tape at the back of a stadium, but is likely to be mono.
See the rear stack as your sound source.  expect "slap-echo" and tons of phasey audience noise, then be surprised if it's better    :D
Title: Re: Taping from non so good positions
Post by: jbraveman on February 02, 2005, 01:59:33 PM
I was just reading the hansonblueeyes fan thread about taping from 1st row.
We all know that 1st row it's not the best place to tape, but how would be taping from the following scenarios?

-"Semi front row": we are not in 1st row, but very close. Let's say 10-15 meters from stage. 
- The very rear of the big stadiums.

I plan to see some "big bands" this year (U2, REM), which you can't really choose your place, it really depends on ticketmaster, lol
Thanks

good seats too close = trade back
bad seats = score some good seats out front before the show.
     If there is an opening band there are usually some sweet tickets released at the box office once the opener
        starts.
     Ticketmaster also often has some good seats the day of the show.
     That being said, you might have to sell your original tickets at a discount.  Sometimes that's the price for pulling a
       great tape  :o
Title: Re: Taping from non so good positions
Post by: Karl on February 03, 2005, 02:52:30 PM
-very rear of a big stadium

In that case I would see if you could run some hypers and point them straight at the stacks.
Title: Re: Taping from non so good positions
Post by: dklein on February 03, 2005, 11:59:21 PM
and don't be afraid of eq if you need it to make it listenable!