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Title: JB3 users: How do you archive your recodings??
Post by: millhouse412 on February 23, 2005, 10:40:02 AM
just wondering...aside from a hard drive. Certain file type on a CD? burn a couple on DVD...just wondering


thanks
dan
Title: Re: JB3 users: How do you archive your recodings??
Post by: hexyjones on February 23, 2005, 10:43:40 AM
Any DATA format...is fine...

I do CD-R now - anticipating moving to DVD eventually...

I think that covers most of us...

Sometimes - for the real A+ stuff I burn two backups...
Title: Re: JB3 users: How do you archive your recodings??
Post by: millhouse412 on February 23, 2005, 10:49:32 AM
do you find anyting that really compresses the best....also is there any way to compress flac files more or can you not because they are already compressed?
Title: Re: JB3 users: How do you archive your recodings??
Post by: fozzy on February 23, 2005, 10:51:27 AM
Shows tracked and flacked to CD-R
Masters flacked to DVD

i pretty much treat my audio copies like trash but the archived copies are sorted and stored away.



flac is about the best/easiest/most free solution i have found
Title: Re: JB3 users: How do you archive your recodings??
Post by: bhtoque on February 23, 2005, 10:51:59 AM
I try to upload it too.

No way everybody who pulls a torrent or seed from archive will lose their copy at the same time.

I just got a dvd burner so I've been making flac cd's of each show, and filling dvd's with a couple shows by the same band.

JAson
Title: Re: JB3 users: How do you archive your recodings??
Post by: hexyjones on February 23, 2005, 10:58:13 AM
I try to upload it too.

No way everybody who pulls a torrent or seed from archive will lose their copy at the same time.

I just got a dvd burner so I've been making flac cd's of each show, and filling dvd's with a couple shows by the same band.

JAson

Good point! - Redundancy!!!
Title: Re: JB3 users: How do you archive your recodings??
Post by: millhouse412 on February 23, 2005, 11:04:29 AM
cool, i was thinking the DVD way....fit more in less space is always good. No here is the mony question....waht about CD degradation.....over teh years haven't most cds been found to deteriorate some??
Title: Re: JB3 users: How do you archive your recodings??
Post by: hexyjones on February 23, 2005, 11:10:33 AM
cool, i was thinking the DVD way....fit more in less space is always good. No here is the mony question....waht about CD degradation.....over teh years haven't most cds been found to deteriorate some??

Has ANY media lasted forever?...no - and none will - you will need to re-archive every 10 years or so...

The DVD drawback is  - if the disc gets flawed in someway - you can lose a lot more...

Also - take note - back in 1993 - they didnt really know how to make CD-Rs very well...I remember Verbatims that I could wipe the relective layer off with my finger....I have almost NO (none!) discs left from my Marantz CDR 610 days...!!!

They have improved the quality tremendously on CDRs -  so the jury is still out...
Title: Re: JB3 users: How do you archive your recodings??
Post by: cleantone on February 23, 2005, 06:50:29 PM
There working on all sorts of new storage media all the time. Those Blue Rays are supposed to fit an ass ton on each. Someday we would be able to put all the recordings we have made onto one little chip or something. Remember these:
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The 51/4" drive was considerably less expensive than 8" drives from IBM, and soon started appearing on CP/M machines. At one point Shugart was producing 4000 drives a day. By 1978 there were more than 10 manufacturers producing 51/4" floppy drives, and the format quickly displaced the 8" from most applications. Tandon then introduced a double-sided drive, doubling the capacity, and a new "double density" format doubled it again, to 360 KB.
Title: Re: JB3 users: How do you archive your recodings??
Post by: Tim on February 23, 2005, 07:03:53 PM
trade them, trade them, trade them..... cdrs are a pretty lousy archival medium
Title: Re: JB3 users: How do you archive your recodings??
Post by: keepongoin on February 23, 2005, 07:06:10 PM
exactly, Tim - the more people that have em, the more chance they will be around forever.
Title: Re: JB3 users: How do you archive your recodings??
Post by: Crumbo on February 23, 2005, 08:42:41 PM
master flac on a dvd

tracked flac on a dvd

both on an external hard drive

tracked flac on my website 

:)
Title: Re: JB3 users: How do you archive your recodings??
Post by: shaggy on February 25, 2005, 07:19:57 PM
These days:

The whole huge WAV (uncompressed) on T-Y DVD-R
Tracked and DSPed WAVs > FLACs on an entirely separate T-Y DVD-R and CD-R

BitTorrented FLAC ASAP if the band is cool with it (bt.etree.org) or not (easytree.org).

edit: Taiyo Yuden 01 or 02


Title: Re: JB3 users: How do you archive your recodings??
Post by: kfrinkle on February 25, 2005, 07:24:52 PM
I never FLAC when I put my wavs on DVD, sometimes with MD5s....  I also put all the in-between wavs on DVD-Rs as well, i usually have about 3-4 steps in the mastering process....  It makes it easy to go back and start at a certain point in the mastering process if need be (and the need has arisen before...)  But always in plain old WAV format onto DVD-Rs.
Title: Re: JB3 users: How do you archive your recodings??
Post by: KLowe on February 26, 2005, 12:28:42 AM
JB3 to the hard drive.  Burn the whole untouched .wav file to DVD and store it (so if my version of tracking and editing sucks....then someone with more skills ("babes only want guys that have good skills")....can adjust levels, track, edit better than me.

Track > Flac > and BT it!  If 100 or so people have the show...i figure it will be out "there" in some format almost forever.

my absolute favorite way to store is archive.org
Title: Re: JB3 users: How do you archive your recodings??
Post by: F.O.Bean on February 26, 2005, 01:33:05 AM
i burn flac/tracked stuff onto cdr

untracked flacs onto cdr(eventually these wiill all make theyre way to dvdr)

started awhile back filling up 3-4 shows of each abnd onto dvdr in flac of course

may start burning wavs/flacs that are tracked and untracked flacs on each dvd too :)

i also treat my audio cds like crap[ and give them away left and right

and i also give one of my HOMEBOYS a copy of about everything i get so he has everything in wavs on cd, so thers plenty of places to turn if something goes wrong

take care of your music and it will take care of you ;)
Title: Re: JB3 users: How do you archive your recodings??
Post by: phishmarisol on February 26, 2005, 03:04:48 AM
I burn about 4-5 shows in FLAC to a DVD.