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Title: capacitor / roll-off question
Post by: Teen Age Riot on March 12, 2005, 05:39:34 PM
So, I'd like to modfify my DPA MPS6020 for permanent bass roll-off at about 150Hz by replacing the capacitors. I can do the soldering myself, but I forgot how to calculate the correct values. (The 6020 is feeding the line-in of my D100.) I remember reading about that stuff here, but I can't find it anymore. Could someone help out?
Also, what's a good place to buy/order capacitors?
Thanks in advance guys!
Title: Re: capacitor / roll-off question
Post by: shaggy on March 13, 2005, 04:13:25 AM
Doug Oade posted this on the Oade Taper Forum late last year.  It specifically is directed to that Batt box.  That DIY section is chok full of great tips and solutions, if you are inclined and skilled enough to take a crack at a DIY project (do it yourself or destroy it yourself).

http://www.oade.com/Tapers_Section/Forum/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=105&topic_id=275&mode=full&page=

The other thing is Jon at JKLabs will do the mod; maybe you can get Marc Kim to do it too, that guy loves to open things up.

ANDY
Title: Re: capacitor / roll-off question
Post by: Teen Age Riot on March 13, 2005, 10:50:41 AM
That's exactly what I was looking for. Forgot that it was on the Oade board and not here. Thanks Andy! +t
Title: Re: capacitor / roll-off question
Post by: Weazel on March 13, 2005, 02:37:53 PM
i did a calculation you need 0.022 uf capicators then.
Title: Re: capacitor / roll-off question
Post by: Teen Age Riot on March 13, 2005, 03:01:24 PM
Yes, thanks. But where do I get them? And which type exactely? I checked cornell-dubilier.com (since the stock caps are Dubiliers), and they have so many different ones... I'm confused.  :-\

i did a calculation you need 0.022 uf capicators then.
Title: Re: capacitor / roll-off question
Post by: jk labs on March 13, 2005, 03:57:19 PM
Yes, thanks. But where do I get them? And which type exactely? I checked cornell-dubilier.com (since the stock caps are Dubiliers), and they have so many different ones... I'm confused.  :-\

i did a calculation you need 0.022 uf capicators then.


Just about any cap will be better than what's in there now! 

22nF is a standard value.  You must pay some attention to size
and pin spacing.
Title: Re: capacitor / roll-off question
Post by: Weazel on March 13, 2005, 05:06:59 PM
im making a batterybox this week from scratch i will make some pics of it. i have 0.01 uf in them wich gives me around 300khz roll off is that to much for cmc-8 (993s)?
Title: Re: capacitor / roll-off question
Post by: jk labs on March 14, 2005, 04:30:58 AM
im making a batterybox this week from scratch i will make some pics of it. i have 0.01 uf in them wich gives me around 300khz roll off is that to much for cmc-8 (993s)?

300khz? Yeah, that sounds about right for bats ;D ;D
Title: Re: capacitor / roll-off question
Post by: Weazel on March 14, 2005, 06:15:02 AM
i mean hrz ofcourse. is it to much?
Title: Re: capacitor / roll-off question
Post by: Weazel on March 14, 2005, 08:53:26 PM
ok, yes i have the slimlines. didn't know they had roll off. i figure it out.

John
Title: Re: capacitor / roll-off question
Post by: jk labs on March 15, 2005, 02:38:50 AM
ok, yes i have the slimlines. didn't know they had roll off. i figure it out.

http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=14080.msg174151#msg174151
Title: Re: capacitor / roll-off question
Post by: Teen Age Riot on March 17, 2005, 06:43:38 PM
Just about any cap will be better than what's in there now! 

22nF is a standard value.  You must pay some attention to size
and pin spacing.


Would this guy work?
http://www.radioshack.com/product.asp?catalog%5Fname=CTLG&product%5Fid=272-1066
Title: Re: capacitor / roll-off question
Post by: Weazel on March 17, 2005, 08:05:07 PM
i just finnisched making my batterybox i used 2,2 uf cause i needed no roll off.

i used wima capicators

i wll post pics now in a new threath
Title: Re: capacitor / roll-off question
Post by: Weazel on March 18, 2005, 12:22:24 PM
Just about any cap will be better than what's in there now! 

22nF is a standard value.  You must pay some attention to size
and pin spacing.


Would this guy work?
http://www.radioshack.com/product.asp?catalog%5Fname=CTLG&product%5Fid=272-1066

probably, but they say film capicators are the best. but don;t know if that would fit in your battery box.
Title: Re: capacitor / roll-off question
Post by: Teen Age Riot on March 23, 2005, 12:39:48 AM
I posted on the Oade forum about which type of film caps to use, and this is what the man himself wrote:

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I feel that polypropylene and polycarbonate are your best bet. The polypropylene caps have a smoother sound. Most any film cap will have lower distortion than most electrolytic caps, but audio grade electrolytic caps do come close to films caps performance. Standard grade electrolytic caps sound pretty bad and you can improve the sound of playback gear by simply replacing them with audio grade caps. Further enhancement can be had by using a film bypass cap with the electrolytic cap..Doug
Title: Re: capacitor / roll-off question
Post by: shaggy on March 23, 2005, 01:05:50 AM
If you score decent caps, please let us know what you got and where you got them!

+T to Moon Pix. for the persistence

ANDY