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Title: Sonosax MINIR82 and MINIR2
Post by: Rick on March 22, 2005, 09:17:25 AM
Not much new news on the MINIR82.....BUT!.... I didn't know there was a MINIR2 ("affordable robust, compact and easy to use recorder"). I wodner how much cheaper that one will be.


March 21.  2005 (http://www.sonosax.ch/SONOSAX-NAB-AES-05.htm)

SONOSAX MINIR82  a miniature 2 to 8 tracks Hard Disk and CompactFlash Card recorder that fits in a pocket ! Despite its reduced size -  only120 x 80 x 28 mm (4.75” x 3.15” x 1.1”) for a weight of approx. 450 gr (1/2 pound) with 4x AA batteries, the MINIR82  will fullfill all the different requirements commonly found in mobile recording.

With Recording capabilities from 44,1kHz up to 192 kHz at 24bits, it provides with 2x microphone pre-amp with Limiter and LF Cut, 2x Line inputs at fixed level, 8x AES/EBU Digital Inputs and Full Time Code functionalities including HDTV format !  Its intuitive menu allows users to freely configurate tracks and media assignement.

SONOSAX MINIR2  build in the same housing and based on the same technology as the MINIR82. This 2 tracks CompactFlash Card recorder is designed to offer journalists and reporters an affordable robust, compact and easy to use recorder thank's to its advanced Automatic Gain Controller. Numerous factory presets will help users to rapidly and easily sets the 2 microphone pre-amps according to microphone type and recording environnement.
Title: Re: Sonosax MINIR82 and MINIR2
Post by: John Kelly on March 22, 2005, 11:23:20 AM
Affordable, eh?  I'll believe it when I see it. ;D

+T for the find
Title: Re: Sonosax MINIR82 and MINIR2
Post by: Popmarter on March 24, 2005, 11:39:31 AM
I got a message from SANOSAX, Release is set for JUNE!
Title: Re: Sonosax MINIR82 and MINIR2
Post by: Ed. on March 24, 2005, 11:42:01 AM
fingers crossed

isn't the 82 supposed to be like $10k tho?
Title: Re: Sonosax MINIR82 and MINIR2
Post by: John Kelly on March 24, 2005, 11:48:01 AM
fingers crossed

isn't the 82 supposed to be like $10k tho?

I think they said they were shooting for under $8k msrp. 
Title: Re: Sonosax MINIR82 and MINIR2
Post by: Tim on March 24, 2005, 11:53:01 AM
fingers crossed

isn't the 82 supposed to be like $10k tho?

I think they said they were shooting for under $8k msrp.

that's much more reasonable :P

Title: Re: Sonosax MINIR82 and MINIR2
Post by: nickgregory on March 24, 2005, 11:54:10 AM
that's much more reasonable :P

yup, in addition to the gear I already sold I would only have to sell 82 pints of blood, 10 gallons of sperm and my wife into slavery
Title: Re: Sonosax MINIR82 and MINIR2
Post by: Ed. on March 24, 2005, 12:05:25 PM
that's much more reasonable :P

yup, in addition to the gear I already sold I would only have to sell 82 pints of blood, 10 gallons of sperm and my wife into slavery

haha +t
Title: Re: Sonosax MINIR82 and MINIR2
Post by: John Kelly on March 24, 2005, 12:10:29 PM
that's much more reasonable :P

yup, in addition to the gear I already sold I would only have to sell 82 pints of blood, 10 gallons of sperm and my wife into slavery

So, in other words, it's doable. ;)
Title: Re: Sonosax MINIR82 and MINIR2
Post by: nickgregory on March 24, 2005, 01:11:17 PM
So, in other words, it's doable. ;)

oh yeah, if I hadnt already Jedi mind tricked her into letting me get a 722 :P
Title: Re: Sonosax MINIR82 and MINIR2
Post by: Ed. on March 25, 2005, 01:52:46 AM
well even if its expensive as hell, i think this one wins the prize for being the smallest.
Title: Re: Sonosax MINIR82 and MINIR2
Post by: silentmark on March 25, 2005, 08:15:09 AM
that's much more reasonable :P

yup, in addition to the gear I already sold I would only have to sell 82 pints of blood, 10 gallons of sperm and my wife into slavery

bwahahahahahahahahaha, nice ...
Title: Re: Sonosax MINIR82 and MINIR2
Post by: Popmarter on April 10, 2005, 03:46:31 AM
Picture Picture Picture!!!!

http://www.sonosax.ch/

Can someone take a look?
NAB 2005 / LasVegas            March 18 - 21.            Booth nr N4225
118th AES / Barcelona            May 28 – 31.                Booth nr 3505     
Title: Re: Sonosax MINIR82 and MINIR2
Post by: caymanreview on April 10, 2005, 03:53:19 AM
wow, small
Title: Re: Sonosax MINIR82 and MINIR2
Post by: F.O.Bean on April 10, 2005, 03:56:21 AM
nice!
Title: Re: Sonosax MINIR82 and MINIR2
Post by: Ed. on April 10, 2005, 10:38:03 AM
please be affordable, please be affordable, please be affordable, please be affordable, please be affordable....

*crosses fingers*
Title: Re: Sonosax MINIR82 and MINIR2
Post by: John Kelly on April 10, 2005, 10:42:59 AM
please be affordable, please be affordable, please be affordable, please be affordable, please be affordable....

*crosses fingers*

What do you consider affordable?  Sonosax already said they're shooting for an "under $8000" msrp.
Title: Re: Sonosax MINIR82 and MINIR2
Post by: Ed. on April 10, 2005, 10:54:47 AM
isn't that for the 82 tho?  i don't really need 8 inputs.  i'm hoping the r2 is the affordable one.  and i'd say around $1000-$1500 would be affordable for what they're offering.

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SONOSAX MINIR2  build in the same housing and based on the same technology as the MINIR82. This 2 tracks CompactFlash Card recorder is designed to offer journalists and reporters an affordable robust, compact and easy to use recorder thank's to its advanced Automatic Gain Controller. Numerous factory presets will help users to rapidly and easily sets the 2 microphone pre-amps according to microphone type and recording environnement.

they do say affordable in their description.  seriously, i'd say around the cost of the 722 would still be affordable, based on what this can do and what the mic preamps are like.
Title: Re: Sonosax MINIR82 and MINIR2
Post by: tchoub on April 10, 2005, 11:29:37 AM
The MINIR2 should be available in august 2005 for ~ 2500 euros.
No idea of the MINIR82 price but it should be out in june 2005.
Title: Re: Sonosax MINIR82 and MINIR2
Post by: Ed. on April 10, 2005, 11:33:06 AM
around $3300 then... :-\
Title: Re: Sonosax MINIR82 and MINIR2
Post by: mmedley. on April 11, 2005, 12:19:55 AM
That sounds about right. A SX-M2 runs about $1000. I think this is what I'm gonna go after. At least I have time to save up for one!
Title: Re: Sonosax MINIR82 and MINIR2
Post by: relaxing on April 13, 2005, 01:58:26 PM
around $3300 then... :-\

Assuming the dollar stops dropping  :-\  :-\
Title: Re: Sonosax MINIR82 and MINIR2
Post by: wboswell on April 13, 2005, 02:46:59 PM
I love the wristband.  Because you never know when you'll need it.

(http://www.sonosax.ch/images_new_site/MINIR/minir_pen.jpg)
Title: Re: Sonosax MINIR82 and MINIR2
Post by: marc0789 on April 13, 2005, 02:58:16 PM
looks like a high-end MD.  ;D
Title: Re: Sonosax MINIR82 and MINIR2
Post by: John Kelly on April 13, 2005, 02:59:52 PM
looks like a high-end MD.  ;D

I don't think the end gets much higher. ;) ;D
Title: Re: Sonosax MINIR82 and MINIR2
Post by: nickgregory on April 13, 2005, 05:31:39 PM
so if this thing is all in one...where do you plug the mics in? or will you need a XLR->1/4" converter?
Title: Re: Sonosax MINIR82 and MINIR2
Post by: John Kelly on April 13, 2005, 05:45:32 PM
so if this thing is all in one...where do you plug the mics in? or will you need a XLR->1/4" converter?

No one knows yet...
Title: Re: Sonosax MINIR82 and MINIR2
Post by: gewwang on April 13, 2005, 05:52:00 PM
In the picture, it looks like maybe some lemo connectors in the front.
Title: Re: Sonosax MINIR82 and MINIR2
Post by: drewloo on April 13, 2005, 10:13:39 PM
I wonder if it'll use some type of break-out dongle or something.
Title: Re: Sonosax MINIR82 and MINIR2
Post by: tchoub on April 25, 2005, 10:35:20 AM
A new picture of the MiniR82 and the MiniR2 next to each other can be found :
Here (bottom of the page) (http://soundcart.com./nab05/index.html)

:o

Title: Re: Sonosax MINIR82 and MINIR2
Post by: Tim on April 25, 2005, 10:54:37 AM
beautiful looking machines...
Title: Re: Sonosax MINIR82 and MINIR2
Post by: John Kelly on April 25, 2005, 11:06:53 AM
Lookin good.
Title: Re: Sonosax MINIR82 and MINIR2
Post by: udovdh on May 22, 2005, 04:52:48 AM
Any updates on this device?
More specs?
Availability?
Title: Re: Sonosax MINIR82 and MINIR2
Post by: setboy on July 09, 2005, 06:46:49 PM
any up dates?


Title: Re: Sonosax MINIR82 and MINIR2
Post by: MBHOTAPER on July 11, 2005, 03:30:29 PM
Seriously looking into losing my DAP1 & going w/the new SAX 2 channel, or the Marantz pmd 671 or the M-Audio in the fal.

Does anyone have an idea if any of them will be worth using their pre or would I be better off using an external (MP2, V2, Aerco, etc.) and just using the AD and CF recorder?

Thanks for the help.
Title: Re: Sonosax MINIR82 and MINIR2
Post by: b-moreman on July 12, 2005, 05:47:46 PM
For all you (us) sonosax feaks!!!
http://sonosax.com/images_new_site/KNIFE.jpg
Title: Re: Sonosax MINIR82 update
Post by: flintstone on July 25, 2005, 02:01:45 PM
Here's a link to preliminary specs for the MiniR82 8 channel recorder

http://www.sonosax.com/MINIR82/MINIR-PRELIMINARY.htm

Estimated delivery September 2005, price $6,000 USD.

Flintstone
Title: Re: Sonosax MINIR82 and MINIR2
Post by: Rick on July 25, 2005, 02:19:00 PM
hmmm, wonder what the 2 channel ends up at.
Title: Re: Sonosax MINIR82 and MINIR2
Post by: nickgregory on July 25, 2005, 02:20:34 PM
free software upgrades for a year...gotta love that...setting it up so that they can continue to get revenue from you in the future
Title: Re: Sonosax MINIR82 update
Post by: wbrisette on July 26, 2005, 07:04:36 AM
Estimated delivery September 2005, price $6,000 USD.

And people thought I paid a hefty price for the Deva IV... 6K, only 2 analog inputs, no hard drive... thanks but no thanks. I don't think this is going to be the home run they are hoping for.

Wayne
Title: Re: Sonosax MINIR82 and MINIR2
Post by: John Kelly on July 26, 2005, 07:10:14 AM
It says 20-30 gig internal hard drive...
Title: Re: Sonosax MINIR82 and MINIR2
Post by: nickgregory on July 26, 2005, 07:25:00 AM
Estimated delivery September 2005, price $6,000 USD.

And people thought I paid a hefty price for the Deva IV... 6K, only 2 analog inputs, no hard drive... thanks but no thanks. I don't think this is going to be the home run they are hoping for.

Wayne

I read the $6000 as the 8 channel version...in the second paragraph down it says the 2 channel version, more details will be released in september
Title: Re: Sonosax MINIR82 and MINIR2
Post by: wbrisette on July 26, 2005, 07:26:21 AM
It says 20-30 gig internal hard drive...

Yep, you're right. I missed that part. I saw the CF option, but somehow skipped right over the HD info.

Wayne
Title: Re: Sonosax MINIR82 and MINIR2
Post by: wbrisette on July 26, 2005, 07:31:28 AM
I read the $6000 as the 8 channel version...in the second paragraph down it says the 2 channel version, more details will be released in september

I don't think that's right. It looks like they are all 8 channel devices (MINIR82), you just have the option of setting them up as 2 to 8 channel devices. However, this is really a marketing ploy because you're still limited to only two analog inputs. The rest of the channels come from the AES inputs, so you'll need a nice Cooper or Sonosax mixer (there's another 6-8K)....

Wayne
Title: Re: Sonosax MINIR82 and MINIR2
Post by: keepongoin on July 26, 2005, 07:58:38 AM
I read the $6000 as the 8 channel version...in the second paragraph down it says the 2 channel version, more details will be released in september

I don't think that's right. It looks like they are all 8 channel devices (MINIR82), you just have the option of setting them up as 2 to 8 channel devices. However, this is really a marketing ploy because you're still limited to only two analog inputs. The rest of the channels come from the AES inputs, so you'll need a nice Cooper or Sonosax mixer (there's another 6-8K)....

Wayne

or, you could run a bunch of V3s and Mini-Mes in front of it.  :P
Title: Re: Sonosax MINIR82 and MINIR2
Post by: wbrisette on July 26, 2005, 08:26:51 AM
or, you could run a bunch of V3s and Mini-Mes in front of it.  :P

Let's see, timing cables, and data cables... check.... Now there's a mass of wiring.  ;D

Wayne
Title: Re: Sonosax MINIR82 and MINIR2
Post by: John Kelly on July 26, 2005, 08:33:56 AM
I read the $6000 as the 8 channel version...in the second paragraph down it says the 2 channel version, more details will be released in september

I don't think that's right. It looks like they are all 8 channel devices (MINIR82), you just have the option of setting them up as 2 to 8 channel devices. However, this is really a marketing ploy because you're still limited to only two analog inputs. The rest of the channels come from the AES inputs, so you'll need a nice Cooper or Sonosax mixer (there's another 6-8K)....

Wayne

They're also making a MINIR2 that will be just 2 channels.  Details for that are coming in Sept.
Title: Re: Sonosax MINIR82 and MINIR2
Post by: wbrisette on July 26, 2005, 09:19:27 AM
They're also making a MINIR2 that will be just 2 channels.  Details for that are coming in Sept.

Sorry, I misread your post. I thought you meant you thought the 6K was for the 2 channel version.

I wouldn't hold your breath for the 2 channel to come much under 2K though. Sonosax has some nice gear out there, but they have always been on the high end of the pricing scheme.

Wayne
Title: Re: Sonosax MINIR82 and MINIR2
Post by: MBHOTAPER on July 28, 2005, 09:14:11 AM
INPUTS

Two balanced Mic/Line Input using high end mic preamp technology on 7 pin miniature connectors.

Got this fron Sonosax. What is a 7 pin connector? Can I get cables made for XLR to 7 pin connectors?
Title: Re: Sonosax MINIR82 and MINIR2
Post by: wbrisette on July 28, 2005, 09:34:52 AM
INPUTS

Two balanced Mic/Line Input using high end mic preamp technology on 7 pin miniature connectors.

Got this fron Sonosax. What is a 7 pin connector? Can I get cables made for XLR to 7 pin connectors?

My guess is they'll supply the cable that will allow you to go from XLR to the 7 pin connector. I think hirose makes a 7 pin connector, and since these seem to be the rage on any gear aimed at hollyweird, this may be what they use. But they'll probably either ship it with the unit (one would think this is the route they will go), or at least offer it as an option.

Wayne
Title: Re: Sonosax MINIR82 and MINIR2
Post by: mmedley. on August 23, 2005, 12:19:23 PM
More info and a September release!

http://www.sonosax.com
Title: Re: Sonosax MINIR82 and MINIR2
Post by: Ray76 on August 23, 2005, 10:06:14 PM
so this isnt an all in one, just a preamp/capture ? or is it/

for some reason the ssax site isnt working on my browser
Title: Re: Sonosax MINIR82 and MINIR2
Post by: Rick on August 23, 2005, 10:26:02 PM
so this isnt an all in one, just a preamp/capture ? or is it/

Sonosax makes pretty good pre-amps, so I'm thinking it should an all-in-one solution.. I'm not even sure the 2 channel version has digital in, so it better be an all-in-one :)
Title: Re: Sonosax MINIR82 and MINIR2
Post by: Ray76 on August 24, 2005, 06:58:33 AM
so this isnt an all in one, just a preamp/capture ? or is it/

Sonosax makes pretty good pre-amps, so I'm thinking it should an all-in-one solution.. I'm not even sure the channel has digital in, so it better be an all-in-one :)

interesting. ill call em today. Hope this box doesnt smear the high end like the m2
Title: Re: Sonosax MINIR82 and MINIR2
Post by: Brian Skalinder on August 24, 2005, 09:59:02 AM
Hope this box doesnt smear the high end like the m2

Have you ever actually used an SX-M2?
Title: Re: Sonosax MINIR82 and MINIR2
Post by: Ray76 on August 24, 2005, 10:07:47 AM
Hope this box doesnt smear the high end like the m2

Have you ever actually used an SX-M2?

LMAO!!!

No Brian, I havent. http://bt.etree.org/details.php?id=16267&page=0

You dont remember this ??

Title: Re: Sonosax MINIR82 and MINIR2
Post by: Ray76 on August 24, 2005, 10:17:34 AM
Hope this box doesnt smear the high end like the m2

Have you ever actually used an SX-M2?

LMAO!!!

No Brian, I havent. http://bt.etree.org/details.php?id=16267&page=0

You dont remember this ??



"Why on earth use the sonosax in front of the 744?
744 has a way superior pre. Sonosax smears the high end big time... Sorry for the rant. just my .."
Title: Re: Sonosax MINIR82 and MINIR2
Post by: Brian Skalinder on August 24, 2005, 03:30:48 PM
LMAO!!!

No Brian, I havent. http://bt.etree.org/details.php?id=16267&page=0

You dont remember this ??

"Why on earth use the sonosax in front of the 744?
744 has a way superior pre. Sonosax smears the high end big time... Sorry for the rant. just my .."

 :lol:  Forgot about that one!
Title: Re: Sonosax MINIR82 and MINIR2
Post by: Ray76 on August 24, 2005, 04:19:30 PM
Yeah, I actually like the Sonosax, from what ive heard of it.
Title: Re: Sonosax MINIR82 and MINIR2
Post by: mmedley. on August 24, 2005, 04:23:13 PM
I think it is the best pre-amp when it comes to Schoeps.
Title: Re: Sonosax MINIR82 and MINIR2
Post by: F.O.Bean on August 25, 2005, 10:03:42 PM
I think it is the best pre-amp when it comes to Schoeps.


QFMFT, i think the schopes>sax>whatever sounds GRAND, best phish section/FOB rig IMO
Title: Re: Sonosax MINIR82 and MINIR2
Post by: Popmarter on September 11, 2005, 01:26:56 PM
with the micro track coming up and seeing the price of this unit....i guess nobody is intrested anymore?
Title: Re: Sonosax MINIR82 and MINIR2
Post by: Ray76 on September 11, 2005, 01:34:17 PM
there are some interested..i hear buzz about it in germany a lot.

Ive heard several mention it here too.

but yeah...the MT will probably make a lot of money from TS.com
Title: Re: Sonosax MINIR82 and MINIR2
Post by: Ray76 on September 11, 2005, 01:41:14 PM
what is the pricing? I looked at the sonosax site, and I saw it listed 6'000   ???

thats for the bigger one...(I think) I think the 2 channel version is like 3,000??I think thats what I heard...
Title: Re: Sonosax MINIR82 and MINIR2
Post by: Ray76 on September 11, 2005, 02:02:55 PM
$3k ??  wtf? ???

The MT oughta make some bucks out of here is right!


The MINIR2 should be available in august 2005 for ~ 2500 euros.
No idea of the MINIR82 price but it should be out in june 2005.

The MINIR82 is 8 channels and 6,000 dollars... minir2 is about 3400 bucks. from these prices..
Title: Re: Sonosax MINIR82 and MINIR2
Post by: nickgregory on September 11, 2005, 07:37:23 PM
$3k ?? wtf? ???

The MT oughta make some bucks out of here is right!



all depends, if this box has a quality pre built into it similar to ths sax pre and a reasonable limiter, this could be competition to the 722...especially in stealthing situations
Title: Re: Sonosax MINIR82 and MINIR2
Post by: setboy on September 12, 2005, 10:30:45 AM
all depends, if this box has a quality pre built into it similar to ths sax pre and a reasonable limiter, this could be competition to the 722...especially in stealthing situations

QFT
Title: Re: Sonosax MINIR82 and MINIR2
Post by: gewwang on September 12, 2005, 10:33:40 AM
all depends, if this box has a quality pre built into it similar to ths sax pre and a reasonable limiter, this could be competition to the 722...especially in stealthing situations

It's got a remote which the maudio and the r1 don't have. As long as you can view levels on it, that's a huge feature for stealthing.
Title: Re: Sonosax MINIR82 and MINIR2
Post by: udovdh on September 13, 2005, 05:23:11 AM
all depends, if this box has a quality pre built into it similar to ths sax pre and a reasonable limiter, this could be competition to the 722...especially in stealthing situations

It's got a remote which the maudio and the r1 don't have. As long as you can view levels on it, that's a huge feature for stealthing.
Why?
If you have to adjust some part is already clipping or at least not so well recorded. If this happens during a show this is no good.
Title: Re: Sonosax MINIR82 and MINIR2
Post by: nickgregory on September 13, 2005, 07:31:57 AM
all depends, if this box has a quality pre built into it similar to ths sax pre and a reasonable limiter, this could be competition to the 722...especially in stealthing situations

It's got a remote which the maudio and the r1 don't have. As long as you can view levels on it, that's a huge feature for stealthing.
Why?
If you have to adjust some part is already clipping or at least not so well recorded. If this happens during a show this is no good.


because volume goes up throughout shows in a lot of cases...this allows you to react rather than be blind because you have the recorder running in your pocket/fanny pack and no idea it is clipping...most stealthers know how to set their gear so that they are bumping zero's then to keep an eye on it and keep levels in check....