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Title: WiFi (not recording related)
Post by: The Kilted Taper on March 29, 2005, 09:55:31 AM
Any WiFi experts out there? I just moved the location of my desktop computer to an area that does not have cable access, and therfor can't put the cable modem there. I've placed the modem and a router next to my TV (TiVo is using a wired connection). I tested the new spot with my wireless laptop and got a very strong signal. However, after installing the card in the desktop I am getting a Low to Very Low signal and even dropping the signal at times. Has anyone used any of the "upgrade" attennas? Would you suggest just upgrading the desktop, just the router, or upgrading both? Thanks.
Title: Re: WiFi (not recording related)
Post by: John R on March 29, 2005, 10:42:55 AM
try higher gain antennas on both the router and desktop.  i wouldn't get a new desktop just because it can't see the router
Title: Re: WiFi (not recording related)
Post by: The Kilted Taper on March 29, 2005, 10:53:58 AM
try higher gain antennas on both the router and desktop.  i wouldn't get a new desktop just because it can't see the router

No thoughts on getting a new desktop, that's for darn sure. And it's seeing the router, just not getting a strong signal. I'll try the antennas and hopefully that will work.

My second thought was that I was crossing signals with another router in the area.....

Title: Re: WiFi (not recording related)
Post by: jmerin on March 29, 2005, 10:56:09 AM
I put an anntena on my router and the singal is so much stronger.  

http://www.hawkingtech.com

I have this one  http://www.hawkingtech.com/prodSpec.php?ProdID=143
Title: Re: WiFi (not recording related)
Post by: The Kilted Taper on March 29, 2005, 11:01:44 AM
I put an anntena on my router and the singal is so much stronger. 

http://www.hawkingtech.com

I have this one  http://www.hawkingtech.com/prodSpec.php?ProdID=143

So you only put it on the router? And if I read correctly, it doesn't matter what brand router I have?
Title: Re: WiFi (not recording related)
Post by: jmerin on March 29, 2005, 11:05:38 AM
yep just on the router, my router now is so much better with it on.

Title: Re: WiFi (not recording related)
Post by: The Kilted Taper on March 29, 2005, 03:06:03 PM
OK, question. I've got a linksys router and card in the desktop. According to the Linksys site, the card comes with a 5dBi card (can't find the specs on the router). The antenna posted above from Hawkins only jumps it up to 6dBi. Will that make much difference? I found another Hawkins antenna that will jump it to 15dBi...will that work, or is that taking it too far?
Title: Re: WiFi (not recording related)
Post by: jmerin on March 29, 2005, 03:52:40 PM
that would work

jon
Title: Re: WiFi (not recording related)
Post by: The Kilted Taper on April 03, 2005, 11:41:07 AM
OK, so I got a high gain antenna, and IT DOESN"T SEE MY NETWORK! I can connect to two others in the neighborhood (low signal strength), but it doesn't see mine. I've got the WEP Key setup on my router, and can connect witht he laptop no problem, just not the desktop. Ideas?
Title: Re: WiFi (not recording related)
Post by: hoobash on April 07, 2005, 03:39:18 PM
I just set up a wireless network with the anntenas from radio shack and they didnt do shit. I think I am going to order this and see how it works
Title: Re: WiFi (not recording related)
Post by: The Kilted Taper on April 07, 2005, 03:40:37 PM
Get this, now the desktop works fine, but the lappie is having issues. Even with the ethernet plugged in. I throw my hands in the air to modern technology!
Title: Re: WiFi (not recording related)
Post by: The Kilted Taper on April 19, 2005, 03:48:09 PM
Just when I thought I had it all set. Had both the lappie and desktop connected last night. At some point my internet/FTP, etc stops working. Wierd, the little wifi icon is there, says I'm connected. I take a look at the status, and the IP address on both is way out of range for the router. I try to disconnect and reconnect, it connects, but again the IP Address is way out of range (not the 192.168.1.xxx that it should be). Any thoughts?
Title: Re: WiFi (not recording related)
Post by: CHURCH-AUDIO on May 14, 2005, 10:38:02 PM
Any WiFi experts out there? I just moved the location of my desktop computer to an area that does not have cable access, and therfor can't put the cable modem there. I've placed the modem and a router next to my TV (TiVo is using a wired connection). I tested the new spot with my wireless laptop and got a very strong signal. However, after installing the card in the desktop I am getting a Low to Very Low signal and even dropping the signal at times. Has anyone used any of the "upgrade" attennas? Would you suggest just upgrading the desktop, just the router, or upgrading both? Thanks.


The upgrade antennas from Radio shack work very well I use one in my house. They cost about $30 in Canada in the US i am sure they are cheaper. Remember with wifi or anything around the 2.4 ghz a metal computer case backed up agenst a concrete wall is not your friend.
Title: Re: WiFi (not recording related)
Post by: OFOTD on May 17, 2005, 12:08:52 AM
The new high gain antennas are usually marketing pieces of crap and usually distort the readings on ACTUAL signal strength.

What Linksys router do you have?

I run a WRT54G.  Its pretty a standard wireless router and can be had cheap from Best Buy or similar.  Here at my Best Buy and CompUSA's they have palattes of them all the time.

Anyways, the best method I have found to increase gain in my wireless netwrk was to use 3rd party firmware and changing the dBi.  The different firmware is a Linux kernal.  It allows me to change the amount of power my router will emit.  They call it Xmit Power.  The default for the Linksys is 28 but you can go up to 84.  I keep mine around 40. No new antennas and other b.s.

Try this site:  http://www.sveasoft.com/content/view/3/1/

The link is to the freeware version of their Alchemy firmware.  I have installed in on a couple of friends routers with great success.  I still have an older version Satori-4.0 v2.07.1.7sv on mine.

The firmware upgrade is super easy and any beginner or n00b can do it.  There is actually an upgrade firware tab on your router.  You just upgrade it with this firmware.  The firmware menus look just the same as the Linksys just with tons of added features and security measures.

Give it a try and let me know how its worked for ya!


NOTE: This is for certain Linksys routers so read the FAQ before you install!
Title: Re: WiFi (not recording related)
Post by: OFOTD on May 17, 2005, 12:20:22 AM
Here is a direct link to the free firmware upgrade:   http://firmware.carlsonwebdesigns.com/Sveasoft/Alchemy_V1.0.zip

Title: Re: WiFi (not recording related)
Post by: admkrk on May 17, 2005, 01:01:32 AM
just curious,   do these wifi boosters work like rf boosters and raise the noise along w/ everything else?
Title: Re: WiFi (not recording related)
Post by: OFOTD on May 17, 2005, 01:23:33 AM
just curious,   do these wifi boosters work like rf boosters and raise the noise along w/ everything else?

well yes and no.  yes they do raise noise when "cranked" but mine is a fairly mild increase in strength.  My house is 2600 sq. ft. with my router on one side of the house and with the icrease I can get ALL of my devices to connect on the far side of the house.  With the stock Linksys firmware most of my devices did not even see my router.

So the no is that unless you are broadcating to your whole  neighborhood then you shouldn't have to increase the signal so far as to introduce any noise..
Title: Re: WiFi (not recording related)
Post by: admkrk on May 17, 2005, 11:21:14 AM
thanks