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Gear / Technical Help => Recording Gear => Topic started by: jeffbirmingham on June 30, 2003, 12:51:40 PM
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Hey all, I was wondering what you guys think of this setup that I have been thinking about getting. A Nomad Jukebox 3, Core Sound High End Binaurals w/b-box (DPA 4060's for the mic's) and the Mic2496 preamp also made by Core Sound. Would this be a decent setup? Would this setup produce good results? Thanks for your help.
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Well, I haven't heard this particular combination of gear, so...I can only comment on each individual piece:
DPA 4060
These mics are well-known for producing fine recordings. Do you plan on open or stealth taping? If stealth, they'll probably work fine but will suffer from crowd noise as all omnis do in a stealth environment. If open taping, you may want to consider cardioid mics - much more versatile.
Mic2496
Not a clue, as I haven't used or heard one yet. In fact, I'd be surprised if anyone has heard much less used one.
JB3
Lots of folks use the JB3 here with good results. Seems like a great way to go right now unless you can find a deal on a low hours, low cost DAT. Search the archives, though - if you have to convert coax > optical some people have run into problems.
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Sounds like a good setup to me. I assume that you are speaking of the preamp that Len Moskowitz is working on (Mic2496). I have been to the core sound site and the spec's for this preamp look great, possible competition for Apogee & Lunatec. I spoke with Len the other day and he informed me that he expects to have the Mic2496 available for purchase within the next couple of weeks. Stay tuned.
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I have been to the core sound site and the spec's for this preamp look great, possible competition for Apogee & Lunatec. I spoke with Len the other day and he informed me that he expects to have the Mic2496 available for purchase within the next couple of weeks. Stay tuned.
I kind of doubt the 2496 will compete with the v3/mme, but we shall see. And as for delivery time, I wouldn't hold my breath!
Daryan
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DPA 4060
If stealth, they'll probably work fine but will suffer from crowd noise as all omnis do in a stealth environment.
Only if you go to shows at which the crowd is disrespectful and inattentive. Go see Ministry - THERE'S a real crowd!
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DPA 4060
If stealth, they'll probably work fine but will suffer from crowd noise as all omnis do in a stealth environment.
Only if you go to shows at which the crowd is disrespectful and inattentive. Go see Ministry - THERE'S a real crowd!
I have to agree with Armen, metal/rock shows are the best for taping. It is those damn disrespectful hippies that cause all the problems! ;D
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its the drunks not the hippies, "god dammed drunks", i am sensing another shirt idea.......
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its the drunks not the hippies, "god dammed drunks", i am sensing another shirt idea.......
t 100 d00d :coolguy: gr8 idea
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I have been to the core sound site and the spec's for this preamp look great, possible competition for Apogee & Lunatec. I spoke with Len the other day and he informed me that he expects to have the Mic2496 available for purchase within the next couple of weeks. Stay tuned.
I kind of doubt the 2496 will compete with the v3/mme, but we shall see. And as for delivery time, I wouldn't hold my breath!
Daryan
I have doubts that it will even come close. My experience with Core has been, shall I say, less than desirable in the past. I don't bother dealing with them anymore. They are not exactly what I would call reputable. First of all, where are the mic XLR inputs? I see one input that looks like a TRS or some variation. I mean, come on...look at this thing!
http://www.core-sound.com/HighResRecorderNews.html
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The Mic2496 looks like a shoddy AD-20 ripoff - let's just hope the PDA recording setup works!
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yeah...gotta admit that thing doesn't look too pretty. and no xlr inputs?? WTF? there's not even 2 inputs...do they expect you to use a dual-xlr > single 1/4" TSR connection? can you provide phantom power that way? i'm pretty skeptical about this box having seen pictures of it....i mean i'm not trying to judge a book by it's cover, but that thing doesn't even appear to have what we need on it.
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I think it's meant for CSBs and HEBs, not real mics.
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yeah...gotta admit that thing doesn't look too pretty. and no xlr inputs?? WTF? there's not even 2 inputs...do they expect you to use a dual-xlr > single 1/4" TSR connection? can you provide phantom power that way? i'm pretty skeptical about this box having seen pictures of it....i mean i'm not trying to judge a book by it's cover, but that thing doesn't even appear to have what we need on it.
just to clear this up, it has a single TA-5F connector (mini-xlr 5pin) which has a sepreate + and - for both channels and a common ground. It can prodive different types of power including P48 and 9V. it will also do 192 but is not marketed as such
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Well, I haven't heard this particular combination of gear, so...I can only comment on each individual piece:
Mic2496
Not a clue, as I haven't used or heard one yet. In fact, I'd be surprised if anyone has heard much less used one.
Paul Rennix was running this thing from SBD to laptop at Northwest string summit. Of course, it was for the in-house archive and is not-tradable. I am sure it sounds damn good.
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Paul Rennix was running this thing [Mic2496] from SBD to laptop at Northwest string summit. Of course, it was for the in-house archive and is not-tradable. I am sure it sounds damn good.
Glad to hear someone's using it! Hopefully we'll get to hear some samples eventually. But until then...I'm not sure it sounds damn good (or damn terrible) as I haven't actually heard the Mic2496 in action.
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I haven't actually heard the Mic2496 in action.
Hey Brian, check out this show:
http://www.taperssection.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=21645.0
I haven't had a chance to critically listen to this yet so I'll save my opinion.
cliff
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Only if you go to shows at which the crowd is disrespectful and inattentive. Go see Ministry - THERE'S a real crowd!
It doesn't matter if the crowd is "inattentive." Go to any show and there will be talking going on, people screaming, etc. Whatever happens around your stealth mics are going to be on your recording.
And that is a bad thing.
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It doesn't matter if the crowd is "inattentive." Go to any show and there will be talking going on, people screaming, etc.
FWIW, I've attended plenty of shows where the crowd is respectful and quiet - minimal to no talking, no screaming, etc., and I've heard plenty of stealth recordings made with omnis that sound very good.
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Hey Brian, check out this show:
http://www.taperssection.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=21645.0
Thanks, Cliff. D/led it at home and will give it a listen. I won't have much to say about the Mic2496, I'm not very familiar with the mics used and so won't know whether to attribute the recording's sonic characteristics to the mics or pre/ADC.
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The Mic2496 looks like a shoddy AD-20 ripoff - let's just hope the PDA recording setup works!
Well, this is an old thread, but thought while doing a search on problems associated with it, I would add my real world feedback.I've used this for over two years, and as of yet, with the limited times it's been used, I've not pulled a reliable recording when doing any High res (24 bit) recordings. That said, I finally after getting some major distortion on the last recording finally took the softwarre developers suggestion to check out my rig- DPA 4061's, PD-Audio, H5555 and whatever. After testing the individual units, it appears the culprit is none other then the MIC 2496. I've sent it in 2 other time before (first for one of the channels blowing, second time for the battery post line-up (it was a mother to slide in a battery , and now, who know's what. So, in retrospect I'm not purchasing anything from Core- Don't trust him, and have wasted not only the bucks on the rig, but also on blown concerts. Haven't seen anything HD based though that is dependable @ high res that I want to try. Check out the penaudio computing on Yahoo to get a feel for it- I've pulled out of that as it appears to be primarily a PD-Audio (read Core Sound Endorsment) of pretty much everything PD-Audio.
Signed me-
Once burned 2XXXX shy.
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Sorry to hear about your troubles, and +t.
I'm sure someone will chime in with some suggestions for where to go from here (I'm no use , 16/44.1 is fine for me).
Cheers
Humbug