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Title: Third party JB3 firmware? - Can we do it?
Post by: hexyjones on April 11, 2005, 07:45:53 AM
Has anyone ever heard of someone trying to program a custom version of the JB3 firmware?

I wonder if the current firmware takes adavantage of everything the parts/chips in the nomad can do.

One thing I'd put on the "wish list" - the ability to generate an MD5 on the JB3...so you can verify the file after USB transfer...
Title: Re: Third party JB3 firmware? - Can we do it?
Post by: John Kelly on April 11, 2005, 09:48:35 AM
Without the source for the current software wouldn't you have to write the entire thing from scratch?  Seems like there'd be a ton of work involved and not a whole lot to gain.
Title: Re: Third party JB3 firmware? - Can we do it?
Post by: hexyjones on April 11, 2005, 10:49:12 AM
Without the source for the current software wouldn't you have to write the entire thing from scratch?  Seems like there'd be a ton of work involved and not a whole lot to gain.

Perhaps...I dont know what language its written in - or the nature of such projects...

But it seems like there are legions of dudes who try to make linux run on anything that has a harddrive...just for fun...and there seems to a healthy PlayStation hacker scene...So I just wondered if we had any smarties out there who had thought of this before...

But - yeah - it would be nice if Creative would make the source code available...

I know there are SDKs for the Software end - but none that I'm aware of for the firmware...

We seem to have determined that the JB3 - for hardware reasons - cant keep up with a 96khz signal - but is the same true for 24 bits? Is it a hardware limitation or software...?
Title: Re: Third party JB3 firmware? - Can we do it?
Post by: Ed. on April 11, 2005, 02:29:28 PM
i think the best place to start with this would be over on the nomad forums on nomadness.

it'd be sweet if it'd remember that i didn't want to record at 128mb/s mp3 everytime i went to the record screen.  think of how easy a fix that could be.
Title: Re: Third party JB3 firmware? - Can we do it?
Post by: John Kelly on April 11, 2005, 02:38:11 PM
i think the best place to start with this would be over on the nomad forums on nomadness.

it'd be sweet if it'd remember that i didn't want to record at 128mb/s mp3 everytime i went to the record screen.  think of how easy a fix that could be.

But you could only "fix" that by editing the current source, which aint gonna happen unless Creative releases it (not friggin likely). ;)

I wouldn't get your hopes up for anything like this happening.  It's a very niche market and there's really no demand for it even amongst JB3 owners.
Title: Re: Third party JB3 firmware? - Can we do it?
Post by: Ed. on April 11, 2005, 02:47:19 PM
yeah, i don't see it happening either.  but besides my clock constantly being wrong, thats the only thing i'd fix on the jb3.
Title: Re: Third party JB3 firmware? - Can we do it?
Post by: hexyjones on April 11, 2005, 02:56:22 PM
http://apple.weblogsinc.com/entry/1234000217033681/

Granted this about Ipod - but damn, some people just wont give up!
Title: Re: Third party JB3 firmware? - Can we do it?
Post by: Ed. on April 11, 2005, 03:08:02 PM
one thing to take into consideration is the amount of people owning ipods vs. the amount of people owning jb3's.

everything/anything is possible.  someone just has to crack the code to see what this badboy can do.  however, it takes someone with a lot free time and the want to crack it.

the ps2 and xbox were hacked/modded because there was a big gain in return...free games for life.  the jb3 being hacked might not lead to a whole bunch.  maybe making it more taper friendly, but i can't see much else coming out of it.

just my bullshit opinion.  i feel ya tho dood, i think it'd be awesome if it was hacked too.
Title: Re: Third party JB3 firmware? - Can we do it?
Post by: John Kelly on April 11, 2005, 03:17:33 PM
And all that guy did was figure out the binary sequence of the bootloader, he still can't tell you the source of the OS. ;)
Title: Re: Third party JB3 firmware? - Can we do it?
Post by: Digital Quality on May 10, 2005, 01:43:40 AM
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But you could only "fix" that by editing the current source, which aint gonna happen unless Creative releases it (not friggin likely). ;)

Creative has gone to pretty great lengths to make their boxes hacker unfriendly. On the newer players, they've even encrypted the firmware binary with a private key. Without the proper encryption it won't even load the software.
Title: Re: Third party JB3 firmware? - Can we do it?
Post by: jcrab66 on May 11, 2005, 08:34:12 PM


it'd be sweet if it'd remember that i didn't want to record at 128mb/s mp3 everytime i went to the record screen.  think of how easy a fix that could be.


i second that one, doesnt seem like that unreasonable of a goal either...for some reason i seem to remember an older firmware did actually come up with the last setting but i may be wrong...