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Title: Matrix SBD/AUD %?
Post by: kskreider on June 04, 2005, 07:14:11 PM

I just made my first post-pro matrix. 

I really thought that I would 'enhance' my onstage 24/96 audience with about 20% board, but the BRICK WALL behind the stage made it sound like blech!  I had to go back and jack the SBD up to about 65% to deaden the hollow sound my audience had. 

Anyway, it just got me thinking that in the ideal situatiuon what folks preferences were...

Title: Re: Matrix SBD/AUD %?
Post by: Ray76 on June 04, 2005, 07:22:02 PM

Quote from: DarkStarJedi on June 04, 2005, 07:14:11 PM

I just made my first post-pro matrix. 

I really thought that I would 'enhance' my onstage 24/96 audience with about 20% board, but the BRICK WALL behind the stage made it sound like blech!  I had to go back and jack the SBD up to about 65% to deaden the hollow sound my audience had. 

Anyway, it just got me thinking that in the ideal situatiuon what folks preferences were...

I just finished my 3rd one, and i have always gone with about 60/40 SBD/AUD. The SBD sounds great, but bringing the audience up really rounds out the sound and fills it up nicely.

Ray

Title: Re: Matrix SBD/AUD %?
Post by: Fatah Ruark (aka MIKE B) on June 04, 2005, 09:54:42 PM

For me it depends on the situation. Mostly how much of the mix is going through the board.

I usually do a test with a song in the middle of the set (once the mix is set up) and then ask someone else what they think.

Also it's venue dependant. If its the Fox in Boulder (I like their board) I will use a little more board. If it's a place where I don't like the board (like Dulcinea's in Denver) I will take a bit more of the AUD source.

I really should be doing more matrix's. I've been real lazy lately though.

MIKE B

Title: Re: Matrix SBD/AUD %?
Post by: nic on June 06, 2005, 09:27:49 AM

there's no set-in-stone ratio...sbd mixes vary wildly depending on size of room, etc...
a 60/40 mix might be great for show a, but a 50/50 or 70/30 might be better for show b.

Title: Re: Matrix SBD/AUD %?
Post by: heath on June 06, 2005, 10:09:39 AM

very situation-dependent.  every one I've ever done has been different...

Title: Re: Matrix SBD/AUD %?
Post by: Scuba Jeremy on June 06, 2005, 10:24:56 AM

I've never done a (successful) post production matrix, but the many I've done on the fly usually float from 80/20 to 60/40 SBD/AUD, depending on the situation like everyone says. However, I normally have a good amount of control over the SBD feed, so I can mix and pan the instruments where I want, and I normally just run two mics off the lip of the stage to "mic the crowd" so to speak. It sounds more like the live releases that people purchase in stores, and the band I work for prefers that. (I dig it too, but then, my mics are not the greatest....)