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Gear / Technical Help => Ask The Tapers => Topic started by: monochromic on June 06, 2005, 06:07:16 AM
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of late, i've really been enjoying some tapes made with a v3 in the chain -- the oh so smooth sound has me hooked !
my rig at present runs with mk4 caps > kcy 250 cable > sonosax sx-m2/ls2 > d100. just wondering what you guys thought about slotting a v3 in the loop for shows were stealthing isn't a requirement. without picking up a pair of schoeps bodies, the sonosax preamp will need to stay, will this have any negative effect running pre the v3, if it's at all possible?
any thoughts most appreciated.
brett.
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cbd runs SX-M2> V3 alot with his DPAs...
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I also run MGs or Schoeps > M148 > V3... I have had no negative effects by running a pre in front of the V3. I also have not had the need to switch the internal 20db jumpers that Grace reccomends for running line in! I would run the AD1K if I could find one and they were still being worked on as I prefer that sound. The MME just doesn't have the AD1K sound!
I also like the option of choosing different flavors by either using the V3 as an AD only or pre/AD if needed, but I know it's not much of a choice for you. In your situation, I would look into a modSBM-1 as a V3 may be an overkill and you have no way of running the V3 without the Sax! Although I do like the V3 ANSR conversion, I'm still not sold on it at 24bit...
Kind of rambling, but just my $.02...
Brad
Edited for grammar...
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wonder if mike grace ever considered doing just an AD. (v1)???
v1+v2 = v3
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thanks for the info guys -- looks like i'll have to pick up a pair of cmc6's if i'm ever going to go the v3 route.
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I have ran 480>148>v3 and loved it, the tape had effects of both the 148 and the v3
i have cxontemplated running a diff pre in front of the v3 on occassion, and if i were to choose one, it would be the sax>v3
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I have ran 480>148>v3 and loved it, the tape had effects of both the 148 and the v3
i have cxontemplated running a diff pre in front of the v3 on occassion, and if i were to choose one, it would be the sax>v3
well ima have a sax and a v2, so maybe thatll sound good.
Ray
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I ran MKx > KCY > SX-M2/LS2 (0dB gain) > V3 for a Del McCoury show a while back. The result: a mighty fine recording. But not your typical scenario - gorgeous theater, true sound re-inforcement, ran ~65dB gain on the V3. I found the SX-M2/LS2 quite a bit noisier than the CMC6 bodies, but for most shows where you're running closer to 30dB gain, I don't think it'd be a problem.
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I ran MKx > KCY > SX-M2/LS2 (0dB gain) > V3 for a Del McCoury show a while back. The result: a mighty fine recording. But not your typical scenario - gorgeous theater, true sound re-inforcement, ran ~65dB gain on the V3. I found the SX-M2/LS2 quite a bit noisier than the CMC6 bodies, but for most shows where you're running closer to 30dB gain, I don't think it'd be a problem.
Brian, I think you forgot to mention the super high noise floor when running the v3 that hot. ;)
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over the past year or so i haven't found myself in that many situations where stealthing has been required, so am thinking of moving from the sonosax/kcy and going the kc5/cmc6xt/v3 route. depending, of course, on the dollars required to do this.
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thanks for the info guys -- looks like i'll have to pick up a pair of cmc6's if i'm ever going to go the v3 route.
What's the point of the CMCXT's, unless you're recording for your dog I don't see the point?
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XTs have a flatter, extended, frequency response when compared to the cmc6-U bodies.
edit: just think of it as the cmc7 ;)
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thanks for the info guys -- looks like i'll have to pick up a pair of cmc6's if i'm ever going to go the v3 route.
What's the point of the CMCXT's, unless you're recording for your dog I don't see the point?
there's a school of thought that even if you are not explicitly hearing the frequencies they are still moving air and affecting what you hear....
same idea as buying mics that go down to 20hz I suppose
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XTs have a flatter, extended, frequency response when compared to the cmc6-U bodies.
edit: just think of it as the cmc7 ;)
Actually the CMC6-U bodies have more flat response (CMC6-U top/CMC6XT bottom):
(http://www.schoeps.de/images-2004/fg-cmc-xt%2Bmk4.gif)
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thanks for the info guys -- looks like i'll have to pick up a pair of cmc6's if i'm ever going to go the v3 route.
What's the point of the CMCXT's, unless you're recording for your dog I don't see the point?
there's a school of thought that even if you are not explicitly hearing the frequencies they are still moving air and affecting what you hear....
same idea as buying mics that go down to 20hz I suppose
On which playback system? I understand what you're saying, perhaps it's true, but I don't know of anyone that has a playback system that can reproduce anything above 20kHz-22.5kHz. What media would this be played back on? There's a whole chain of equipment that you'd need to improve upon to even accomplish reproduction of that range, from the media > "super tweeters".
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They do have a slightly increased frequency response from 9k and above, that alone would give them a slightly more detailed or "brighter" charactaristic.
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what he said
the gear is out there but at this point I'm a few years out of my time keeping up with the engineering and the technology....
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LMAO
Myth... BUSTED
The hearing protection and diapers were too much.
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what he said
the gear is out there but at this point I'm a few years out of my time keeping up with the engineering and the technology....
Townshend Audio Super Tweeters, only $1500
(http://www.themusic.com/images/thumbs/supertweeter-b.jpg)
These only go up to 35kHz, unlike the Townshends 75kHz, and they're $250 cheaper, but it's not like you'll hear the difference. :P
(http://www.6moons.com/audioreviews/tonian2/header.gif)
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I don't know of anyone that has a playback system that can reproduce anything above 20kHz-22.5kHz.
In addition to the other playbcak gear already mentioned in this thread, the Grado RS-1 headphones are spec'd at 12Hz > 30 kHz. the RS-2 specs are 14 > 28k