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Gear / Technical Help => Ask The Tapers => Topic started by: pepper on June 09, 2005, 08:14:54 AM
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I recorded a stand up comicon monday night and i have a slight problem.The recording is low in places and louder in others.Ive tried to raise the recording so i could hear the quiter bits,but now the louder bits are distorting.Is there anyway of getting this recording more or less the same all the way through.As ive tried all i can do,would anyone be kind enough to have a go at it for me.Im fine with recording gigs but never have the knowledge to follow up any things that need to be sorted with my recordings.I can send blank cdrs or something in exchange for anyone that might be able to help.Also if youre a fan of the british comedian jack dee thats even better.Thanks in advance for anyone that might be able to help. :D
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I recorded a stand up comicon monday night and i have a slight problem.The recording is low in places and louder in others.Ive tried to raise the recording so i could hear the quiter bits,but now the louder bits are distorting.Is there anyway of getting this recording more or less the same all the way through.As ive tried all i can do,would anyone be kind enough to have a go at it for me.Im fine with recording gigs but never have the knowledge to follow up any things that need to be sorted with my recordings.I can send blank cdrs or something in exchange for anyone that might be able to help.Also if youre a fan of the british comedian jack dee thats even better.Thanks in advance for anyone that might be able to help. :D
Use normalize. That equals it out.
Ray
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The whole recording needs boosting as its overall not loud enough,but some bits are quite hard to hear.If i send someone a copy of the gig on a data cd would they be able to have a go at it.Im not asking a lot just a bit of help.If anyone can help id be grateful.
thank you :D
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The whole recording needs boosting as its overall not loud enough,but some bits are quite hard to hear.If i send someone a copy of the gig on a data cd would they be able to have a go at it.Im not asking a lot just a bit of help.If anyone can help id be grateful.
thank you :D
Dude, normalize. Thats what you need to do. normalize takes the entire song db and raises it up to an equal level
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Dude, normalize. Thats what you need to do. normalize takes the entire song db and raises it up to an equal level
True, normalizing will raise the entire waveform by the same amount. For example, if your highest peak is -2dB, and you normalize to 0dB, the entire waveform will increase in amplitude by 2dB. However, the dynamic range (difference between LOUD and soft) will remain. To reduce the dynamic range, make the LOUD not quite so loud relative to quiet, and vice versa, use compression. The ratio and threshold to use depend on the recording, so play around with different ratios and thresholds and see what works.
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Dude, normalize. Thats what you need to do. normalize takes the entire song db and raises it up to an equal level
True, normalizing will raise the entire waveform by the same amount. For example, if your highest peak is -2dB, and you normalize to 0dB, the entire waveform will increase in amplitude by 2dB. However, the dynamic range (difference between LOUD and soft) will remain. To reduce the dynamic range, make the LOUD not quite so loud relative to quiet, and vice versa, use compression. The ratio and threshold to use depend on the recording, so play around with different ratios and thresholds and see what works.
thanks brian. i knew what i wanted to say, but not how to type it.+T
Ray
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Ok as i dont have a lot of confidence in doing a good job,would someone else be good enough to have a go for me.Il send the original wav file as a data cd.I fully understand that some might say,just do it yourself,but hey if you dont ask you dont get.Im more than willing to repay the person in someway,whether it be blanks etc so i dont/wont expect something for nothing.
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Applying compression is simple. What software are you using? Maybe someone hear can walk you through it step by step.
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Maybe if i send the mp3 files of this gig to someone they could do it for me saving me the frustration,surely such people exsit.If its not as simple as saying,would anyone be kind enough to sort this gig out for me,and maybe i could send blanks in return for doing it then im sorry.I honestly dont have any knowledge of what im doing which is why i asked if someone else might have a go on my behalf.
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You might could try the "envelope" tool.
Thanks to Leegeddy for making this short tutorial
http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=28524.msg358783#msg358783
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Ok,all i would like is a one word answer,no tutorials,no tech lingo,nothing.Just a good old fashioned yes or no.Is anyone williing to have a go at this for me please,as id be very grateful.
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Ok,all i would like is a one word answer,no tutorials,no tech lingo,nothing.Just a good old fashioned yes or no.Is anyone williing to have a go at this for me please,as id be very grateful.
we are trying to help you, man!. You need to be grateful that someone is offering you advice instead of being crass and rejecting what you are offered. Some good old fashioned work on your part would probably serve you well. When I came here I didnt know jack shit, but busting my ass and actually READING what was posted here instead of expecting someone to do all the work for me helped a lot. This place is a WEALTH of knowledge, but some work on your part would do you good. IMHO, I find it strange that you want someone to edit YOUR recording.
Read man, read
Ray
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Ok,all i would like is a one word answer,no tutorials,no tech lingo,nothing.Just a good old fashioned yes or no.Is anyone williing to have a go at this for me please,as id be very grateful.
No.
Why are you dead set against helping yourself? Like I said, this is not difficult. You indicate you don't have the knowledge. But you have more knowledge now than you did when you started - you now know that you should try compression to address the problem. I've tried to increase your knowledge further by asking what software you have so someone with the same s/w can walk you through it step by step.
Surely, before you started taping, you had to learn a little bit about the gear in order to purchase and run it. So you learned about the gear, increased your knowledge. So do the same now. As a taper, you will encounter more situations in which you'll want to apply compression to a recording, so why not learn now?
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Ok im using magix audio cleaning lab 2004
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seriously man, read the forum. do a search. I guarantee you will find somehting that will help your situation.
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Im sorry if i appeared to sound like a complete f**king idiot.Its just that ive tried everything my tiny brain will allow.Im shit at taking in info about things i dont understand.I know you dont know this but ive tried as much as i could before asking for help,it obviously seemed like i was asking for help without trying at all.
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Ok im using magix audio cleaning lab 2004
I'm not familiar with Magix, but according to their website, Audio Cleaning Lab 10 includes a compressor. See if ACL 2004 offers a similar feature. It'll be called compression, compress, compressor or some such, not sure where on the menu. Once you're in, the three primary settings with which to concern yourself: compression ratio, threshold, output gain. Magix may refer to those settings slightly differently. Where you set them depends on your recording.
The threshold determines the dB level above which to apply the compression. So, for example, if you specify a threshold of -9dB, the s/w will compress everything above -9dB, but not below -9dB.
The compression ratio determines how much to compress, i.e. how much to reduce the dynamic range. A very high ratio (e.g. 999:1) will effective flatten out your waveform right at the threshold defined. So, a threshold of -9dB and a ratio of 999:1, will basically result in a waveform that reaches no higher than approximately -9dB. A lower ratio, 2:1, for example, will result in a waveform that reaches higher than -9dB, but lower than it did previous to compression.
The output gain determines how much gain to add after compression takes place. So, in our extreme example with a threshold of -9dB, a ratio of 999:1, we've effectively compressed our recording so the peaks hit about -9dB. We would then set the output gain to +9dB to bring the peak levels back up near 0dB.
And if none of this makes sense after playing around with the Magix compressor, post a pic of the compressor screen here, + a pic of your waveform, and hopefully we can offer some initial values to try for the above settings (or the different settings offered by Magix's compressor).
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i use the 'wave-hammer' function in wavelab, it applies a small bit of compression and lowers the db of the recording, then i 'change gain' to about .5db
also, maybe try normalizing the RMS(Average) value of the whole set rather than the 'peak' normalize