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Gear / Technical Help => Microphones & Setup => Topic started by: timP on July 01, 2005, 01:58:48 PM
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Not that I will be owning any of these mics anytime soon, just wondering:
How come more Schopes users don't own the MK5 cap instead of the striaght MK4...
I would think the versitility of the omni and card setting would make this cap a great assest to any taping set up
is there a sonic difference between the card settings?
thanks
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Probably a couple reasons...
- According to Schoeps, "The MK 5/CCM 5 has a slight high-frequency emphasis when compared with the corresponding single-pattern MK 2/CCM 2(omni) and MK 4/CCM 4 (cardioid)."
- The price of a MK5 is only about 15% less than the price of a MK4 and an MK2. That makes the MK5 a pretty expensive capsule. I think a lot of us get capsules a little at a time. Another advantage of owning MK4 and MK2 capsules is that they can be used simultaniously (lend to another taper, multitrack, etc).
- Jason
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the frequency response of the MK5 in cardioid is superior for our purposes than the MK4. The MK5 has a slight boost +2 db gradual from 2khz to 20khz this helps replace HF lost through scattering in far field recording. If you got the bucks go for the mk5s.....and the tubes too if you really got the bucks =)
peace, chris
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the frequency response of the MK5 in cardioid is superior for our purposes than the MK4. The MK5 has a slight boost +2 db gradual from 2khz to 20khz this helps replace HF lost through scattering in far field recording. If you got the bucks go for the mk5s.....and the tubes too if you really got the bucks =)
peace, chris
Tubes SUCK ;)
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thanks for the info ya'll ++++
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the ONLY possible change I've thought of making is trading the 4022's in on a pair of ccm5's. be real nice to have 1) no bodies, 2) no extra caps to deal with, just a switch, and 3) really want some omnis.
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the ONLY possible change I've thought of making is trading the 4022's in on a pair of ccm5's. be real nice to have 1) no bodies, 2) no extra caps to deal with, just a switch, and 3) really want some omnis.
just suck it up and buy some DPA 4036's. ;D
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the ONLY possible change I've thought of making is trading the 4022's in on a pair of ccm5's. be real nice to have 1) no bodies, 2) no extra caps to deal with, just a switch, and 3) really want some omnis.
youre only really getting the omni change...your 4022s are fixed cap-bodyless :)
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the ONLY possible change I've thought of making is trading the 4022's in on a pair of ccm5's. be real nice to have 1) no bodies, 2) no extra caps to deal with, just a switch, and 3) really want some omnis.
just suck it up and buy some DPA 4036's. ;D
why not the 4052s?
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if sonosax has a lemosax version of their new HD recorder that's ipod size, coun't me in on some mk5s
ahhhh..that would be nice, no bodies just two capsules, active cables and a recorder.
peace, chris
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ccm5s are bodyless and the same size as the mk4>active, they terminate to regular xlrs -
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but they're fixed capsule and much more expensive than mk5+actives
;D
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the ONLY possible change I've thought of making is trading the 4022's in on a pair of ccm5's. be real nice to have 1) no bodies, 2) no extra caps to deal with, just a switch, and 3) really want some omnis.
just suck it up and buy some DPA 4036's. ;D
why not the 4052s?
http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=45082.0
I wouldn't even have noticed the difference if it wasn't for the Zee-man! :P
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Something the other thread did not mention that might be relevant is that the 4036 and 4052 are based on different capsules. The 4052 is based on the 4006 and the 4036 is based on the 4007.
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Something the other thread did not mention that might be relevant is that the 4036 and 4052 are based on different capsules. The 4052 is based on the 4006 and the 4036 is based on the 4007.
Interesting, didn't know that. +t, thanks for the info.
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the ONLY possible change I've thought of making is trading the 4022's in on a pair of ccm5's. be real nice to have 1) no bodies, 2) no extra caps to deal with, just a switch, and 3) really want some omnis.
just suck it up and buy some DPA 4036's. ;D
why not the 4052s?
http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=45082.0
I wouldn't even have noticed the difference if it wasn't for the Zee-man! :P
All about the $$$$$. I could sell the 4022's for 2200, and kick down another thou and have the ccm5's. gotta believe the 4052's are at least 3200 at this point?
the only thing holding me back is the most important thing....I don't like the murk as much. ;D
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the ONLY possible change I've thought of making is trading the 4022's in on a pair of ccm5's. be real nice to have 1) no bodies, 2) no extra caps to deal with, just a switch, and 3) really want some omnis.
just suck it up and buy some DPA 4036's. ;D
why not the 4052s?
http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=45082.0
I wouldn't even have noticed the difference if it wasn't for the Zee-man! :P
Not to be confused with the Z-Man....
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the ONLY possible change I've thought of making is trading the 4022's in on a pair of ccm5's. be real nice to have 1) no bodies, 2) no extra caps to deal with, just a switch, and 3) really want some omnis.
just suck it up and buy some DPA 4036's. ;D
why not the 4052s?
http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=45082.0
I wouldn't even have noticed the difference if it wasn't for the Zee-man! :P
All about the $$$$$. I could sell the 4022's for 2200, and kick down another thou and have the ccm5's. gotta believe the 4052's are at least 3200 at this point?
the only thing holding me back is the most important thing....I don't like the murk as much. ;D
less murk with the HF boost :)
my motivation here is to get someone to sell lucks some 4022's ;D
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lucks has first dibs, but I've run these for 4 years now, and it's gonna be tough. I've toyed with just picking up a pair of TL's but damn those things are big and heavy. My sole motivation for even considering a change is to have a pair of omnis...specifically for recording in Colo goddamn windy Rado. ;D
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lucks has first dibs, but I've run these for 4 years now, and it's gonna be tough. I've toyed with just picking up a pair of TL's but damn those things are big and heavy. My sole motivation for even considering a change is to have a pair of omnis...specifically for recording in Colo goddamn windy Rado. ;D
For high-quality omnis at a lower price than the DPA's will run, might want to check out the Earthworks QTC line, super flat response (even flatter than the DPA's which have that little HF bump). I personally haven't heard these but they look like great mics. Plus being omnis I would think they would not be as bright as the cardioid SR71/77 which were always a little too thin sounding to my ears.
http://www.earthworksaudio.com/5.html
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marc..get a pair of c460b's have them modded by jim williams, and then get a pair of ck62's and have them rebeuilt by tony merrill. ;D ;D ;D
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I always likes sideshowbobs mk5>toobes>m222>nt222 setup better than any mk4 tape w/ the same lineage, especially for phish
the HF boost makes them sound less like schoeps, thats why i like them better ;D
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the HF boost makes them sound less like schoeps, thats why i like them better ;D
:thebirdman: :flipa:
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:boxing: :nightfevah: :lol: :wink2: :yack:
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You're just mad 'cause AKGs have no bottom end...
AKG = the sound of thin air
:whipped:
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You're just mad 'cause AKGs have no bottom end...
AKG = the sound of thin air
:whipped:
20-20k vs. your girlie-girl 40-20k :P ;D
wanna talk bottom end now 8)
you should hear the 414's, all the bottom end you could ever want
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You're just mad 'cause AKGs have no bottom end...
AKG = the sound of thin air
:whipped:
20-20k vs. your girlie-girl 40-20k :P ;D
wanna talk bottom end now 8)
you should hear the 414's, all the bottom end you could ever want
I have def heard some nice 414 recordings...
Personally, I have always thought the AKG sound was a bit bright (almost brittle) and thin
That being said, I have many AKG recordings that I like
I do like the 460s w/ the JW mod, they are smoooth
At this point it is really a matter of personal taste - there are many on this site who are pulling great tapes with many different mics...
Microphones rock :guitarist: ;D
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I know, just razing nick ;D
i would like to give the mod460's a spin, if i could only get a pair of 460 bodies, i would DEF get them modded!
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the HF boost makes them sound less like schoeps, thats why i like them better ;D
:cheers: :clapping: :coolguy:
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marc..get a pair of c460b's have them modded by jim williams, and then get a pair of ck62's and have them rebeuilt by tony merrill. ;D ;D ;D
I definitely dig the CK62 omni caps, one of my favorite tapes is WSP 7-14-99 CK62/C480>V2>ADC20, such a sweet sounding low end on this tape. Full and true, great feel to this recording.
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the HF boost makes them sound less like schoeps, thats why i like them better ;D
:cheers: :clapping: :coolguy:
Don't encourage him...
;)
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sweet! im in line for 4022s and i cant even afford em yet :)
mk5s are definitely nicer than the mk4s...it must be that HF boost.
I think its that AKGs have a funny mid-freq, not the bottom end or the low end.
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marc..get a pair of c460b's have them modded by jim williams, and then get a pair of ck62's and have them rebeuilt by tony merrill. ;D ;D ;D
I definitely dig the CK62 omni caps, one of my favorite tapes is WSP 7-14-99 CK62/C480>V2>ADC20, such a sweet sounding low end on this tape. Full and true, great feel to this recording.
one of my very favorite tapes, for sure.