I have been recording for a little while, and my tapes have what I would consider to be a dull sound. Not real bright sounding, like other recordings I have heard. It is almost like there is not enough treble. I am not sure if I am being overly critical because these are my tapes, but that is how I feel. I have tried DIN, XY, the Nutter Technique, and I try to only run my mics at about 7 - 7.5 feet. Can anyone help explain why this may be happening???
Thanks for any help
Gary
what is your rig?
Superlux SMK-H8K (stereo matched cardiod) > Advanced Research Technology Phantom II (48v) > Denecke AD-20 > Sharp MT-90 and Sharp MT-180 minidisc
Quote from: ghull on July 20, 2003, 10:46:53 PM
Sharp MT-90 and Sharp MT-180 minidisc
Sounds like ATRAC rearing it's ugly head... maybe a DAT/JB3/lappy solution is in order? Never heard of those mics, but that oculd do it as well.
My guess is it is the mics sound, and that a change of mics may be in order. I have never heard those mics either, so giving reccomendations is kind of tough. Do you have an mp3 sample I could take a listen to? It would help in giving feedback, as I know the sound of the rest of your rig! Do you have a link to the frequency response of the mics? I am at work and don't have the time to look it up just yet!
Daryan
There's another guy on here running the Superlux mics - Alex Herd. He's got a couple of recordings up on archive.org - do a search for superlux and they should come up. He runs them through a Samson mixpad so it might be a good comparison to see if his sound brighter or not...
--Dave
Ya, some of my stuff is up on the archive, Little feat 6/10/03, Carbon Leaf, Maroon5 and Guster from the Big Shindig on 6/29/03. I'll be putting Derek Trucks band from last night up on the archive soon as well.
Alex...definately put up DTB...it wil make helping this guy easier on my ears!! Do you happen to have a link to the specs?
Daryan
How does the room sound where your taping?
Daryan, ya Im not a huge fan of any of thoes bands that were at the Big Shindig, but I felt like taping somthing. DTB should be up within a day or so. Specs: http://www.superlux.us/images/SMK-H8K_datasheet.jpg
another: http://www.superlux.us/images/CM-H8K_310145.jpg
Looking at the graph, it doesn't look like it would be the mic. Maybe a slight drop on the utmost extreme part of the high end, but not enough to make your tapes sound dull. Whgat mic configurations are you trying? What angles? I need more info...
Daryan
Ya, I wouldn't think that its the mics, I mean, they are not the greatest mics in the world, but I wouldn't call my tapes dull.
Quote from: ghull on July 20, 2003, 10:35:27 PM
I have been recording for a little while, and my tapes have what I would consider to be a dull sound. Not real bright sounding, like other recordings I have heard. It is almost like there is not enough treble. I am not sure if I am being overly critical because these are my tapes, but that is how I feel. I have tried DIN, XY, the Nutter Technique, and I try to only run my mics at about 7 - 7.5 feet. Can anyone help explain why this may be happening???
Thanks for any help
Gary
Some other reasons might be using cheap windscreens, bad conversion to HD, poor FOH sound.
How are you transferring those MDs?
Daryan (and everybody else) DTB is up now at http://www.archive.org/audio/etree-details-db.php?id=6313 . Keep in mind, I wouldn't call this one of my best recordings, the PA was set up pretty odd at the show (on the roof of the stage pavilion). But I think that it deffinatly gives you an idea of how the mics sound.
To try and answer a few of the questions, I have tried using the Nutter Technique, DIN spaced about 22 inches apart, and XY. I have recorded in both small bars and outside venues. Normally I would say the sound at the venues have been very good. As for transferring, I use a Sony MZ-1 > DIO 2448 > Sound Forge 5.0.
The tapes I am making may sound good, I just might be over critical of my own tapes. I appreciate all the responses and any other hints you can give.
Gary
I will download a track or two and let you know what I think sometime this afternoon.
I for one would try ortf and true din to get a feel for things. I have never tried the nutter technique, and probably won't, as I am happy running ortf and din, and sometimes nos.
Daryan