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Title: split cardioid advice?
Post by: marc0789 on July 15, 2005, 02:51:34 PM
never played with this, but 10klf is the perfect chance...plenty of room, and the stacks are split waayyy more than 110'....advice, thoughs are appreciated. Thanks, Marc
Title: Re: split cardioid advice?
Post by: plucks on July 15, 2005, 03:36:42 PM
split em 10'!!!!

there is nothing wrong with doing em A-B split like that.  More than 10' could make the dreaded hole in the middle, but one of my all time fave tapes are indoor split MK4s from 95 Phish
Title: Re: split cardioid advice?
Post by: marc0789 on July 15, 2005, 03:44:13 PM
thanks Phil, gonna do it...wtf, it is McPanic, after all. :P
Title: Re: split cardioid advice?
Post by: plucks on July 15, 2005, 03:48:53 PM
no doubt!
and with those lovely 4022s, the low freq signals will sounds even better...They'll be so clean they'll dirty your undies  :veryevil: :yahoo:
Title: Re: split cardioid advice?
Post by: BC on July 15, 2005, 05:47:34 PM
+t for splitting the 4022's. Never tried it myself but have thought about it, though in a different situation, for stage taping where one instrument is really low in the mix (like a percussionist off to the side), I thought a split with mics at the sides of the stage pointing inwards could turn out nice. Anyone ever tried this?

FWIW: I have Phish Molson 99' on split 4V's(V2>AD1000?), I think it sounds pretty nice. No idea how wide the split was on this though.

Title: Re: split cardioid advice?
Post by: Nick's Picks on July 16, 2005, 07:40:10 AM
i've run split cards a few times, and they sound really good, imo.

though..i'm becoming a fan of much smaller spacings.  like 4-8' in my splits.
I'll be playing with a bunch of this stuff at the "big summer classic" show next week. 

sounds like a new burger at McDonalds or something.
Title: Re: split cardioid advice?
Post by: nickgregory on July 18, 2005, 10:29:20 AM
I am considering doing this at ACL this year as well, as there will be plenty of tapers...may have to give it a shot!
Title: Re: split cardioid advice?
Post by: scb on July 18, 2005, 10:37:07 AM
do it. i love my warren and friends, which was split 4022s
Title: Re: split cardioid advice?
Post by: nickgregory on July 18, 2005, 10:37:56 AM
do it. i love my warren and friends, which was split 4022s

yeah, that was helping motivate the curiosity, was jamming to that this weekend
Title: Re: split cardioid advice?
Post by: Rick on July 18, 2005, 01:53:48 PM
I am considering doing this at ACL this year as well, as there will be plenty of tapers...may have to give it a shot!

Try it when I'm there... we can do 4022(split)>722 vs 4022>722 and we hear what the difference is.
Title: Re: split cardioid advice?
Post by: nickgregory on July 18, 2005, 02:14:45 PM
I am considering doing this at ACL this year as well, as there will be plenty of tapers...may have to give it a shot!

Try it when I'm there... we can do 4022(split)>722 vs 4022>722 and we hear what the difference is.

absolutely!
Title: Re: split cardioid advice?
Post by: plucks on July 18, 2005, 02:19:50 PM
marc-
i may have to run your 4022s split at red rox in august if you send them over with Simpy!  
Title: Re: split cardioid advice?
Post by: Colin Liston on July 18, 2005, 02:44:41 PM
I've run 4023's split just about 24' a few times.  But mine were sitting about 4' from each stack, but they certainly do smoke.....

Give it a shot!

colin
Title: Re: split cardioid advice?
Post by: Zee on July 21, 2005, 12:09:56 AM
I am considering doing this at ACL this year as well, as there will be plenty of tapers...may have to give it a shot!

Try it when I'm there... we can do 4022(split)>722 vs 4022>722 and we hear what the difference is.

absolutely!


Nice we wil have a lot of 4022s running for ACL this year!!! Ill be running the 4022>v2>722 I have often thought about running A/B but neer went through with it. Do you have the dpa shock mounts?
Title: Re: split cardioid advice?
Post by: nickgregory on July 21, 2005, 07:26:03 AM
Do you have the dpa shock mounts?

should be delivered any day now
Title: Re: split cardioid advice?
Post by: JasonSobel on July 21, 2005, 07:56:10 AM
FWIW: I have Phish Molson 99' on split 4V's(V2>AD1000?), I think it sounds pretty nice. No idea how wide the split was on this though.

you're probably thinking of 7/6/00 at the molson 4v > v2 >ad1000.  according to the info file that I have, the mics were split 30 feet.
Title: Re: split cardioid advice?
Post by: JAH on July 21, 2005, 12:33:08 PM
thanks Phil, gonna do it...wtf, it is McPanic, after all. :P
marc, check into running a jecklin disc (maybe some kind soul will loan you theirs)...may be worth the fun.

peace
jah