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Gear / Technical Help => Playback Forum => Topic started by: JackoRoses on September 22, 2005, 04:02:39 PM
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Ok, so I have come to the point where my playback system has more toslink connections than spdif and I only have 1 toslink input on my current DAC.
I am considering getting a c02/c03 or a hosa or something of the likes.
Would any of you place a c0* in your playback stream knowing it is not bit perfect?
My playback system is nothing to write home about yet I still want it to be as good on playback as it can be.
I don't have any experience with these converters so I don't really know much about them. (what's their really to know?)
Basically I have 2 spdif and 1 optical in on the DAC, so I want to convert a optical to a spdif to input into the DAC
Thoughts?
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Is the hosa box not bit perfect? If so, why not just use that instead of the co2? Any time you induce a transformation via another electrical box, whatever it is, it is going to have a negative impact on the signal. Whether or not you can hear it or not will ultimately be up to the resolution of your playback system. I can hear the differnce between digital cables, so YMMV.
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Is the hosa box not bit perfect? If so, why not just use that instead of the co2? Any time you induce a transformation via another electrical box, whatever it is, it is going to have a negative impact on the signal. Whether or not you can hear it or not will ultimately be up to the resolution of your playback system. I can hear the differnce between digital cables, so YMMV.
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price for one!
I hear you about the cables, the only other option is switching cables when I want to listen to a different component
I rather not get the box personally, yet I personally don't feel like monkeying around behind the system plugging unplugging
edit to add bah I just need to get a new dac that does 24/96 anyway at least. :-\
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Is the hosa box not bit perfect? If so, why not just use that instead of the co2? Any time you induce a transformation via another electrical box, whatever it is, it is going to have a negative impact on the signal. Whether or not you can hear it or not will ultimately be up to the resolution of your playback system. I can hear the differnce between digital cables, so YMMV.
D----
price for one!
I hear you about the cables, the only other option is switching cables when I want to listen to a different component
I rather not get the box personally, yet I personally don't feel like monkeying around behind the system plugging unplugging
edit to add bah I just need to get a new dac that does 24/96 anyway at least. :-\
if you have a few hundred bucks why not get the bel canto dac 1.1- it does 24/96 and has an optical and coax in and then rca outs- you can feed from both as both are hot at the same time.
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Is the hosa box not bit perfect? If so, why not just use that instead of the co2? Any time you induce a transformation via another electrical box, whatever it is, it is going to have a negative impact on the signal. Whether or not you can hear it or not will ultimately be up to the resolution of your playback system. I can hear the differnce between digital cables, so YMMV.
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price for one!
I hear you about the cables, the only other option is switching cables when I want to listen to a different component
I rather not get the box personally, yet I personally don't feel like monkeying around behind the system plugging unplugging
edit to add bah I just need to get a new dac that does 24/96 anyway at least. :-\
if you have a few hundred bucks why not get the bel canto dac 1.1- it does 24/96 and has an optical and coax in and then rca outs- you can feed from both as both are hot at the same time.
I need the money to get right somewhat again, team home ownership is dogging me.
It's a lot of work and money doing it by yourself.
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while not cheap, digital patchbays are friggin sweet!
http://namm.harmony-central.com/SNAMM02/Content/Frontier_Design/PR/Apache.html
http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/Optipatch/
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You could build a digital patchbay rather cheaply I would imagine.
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You could build a digital patchbay rather cheaply I would imagine.
I'd rather spend the money towards updating my old dac to a newer one.
My adcom only has 1 optical and 2 spdif and only does 16 bit.
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Well, I bet you could do it for about 20 bucks in parts. I will see what I can find for you. Do they make optical splitters like coax splitters? I would think this would work as well.
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Well, I bet you could do it for about 20 bucks in parts. I will see what I can find for you. Do they make optical splitters like coax splitters? I would think this would work as well.
i would think you would have some serious degradation in signal.
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Perhaps, though I would think with a voltage step up in there, it should be OK. I have split coax signals at least 5 times in the field and it seemed to work!
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http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0002MQGR2/103-3291729-6736621?v=glance (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0002MQGR2/103-3291729-6736621?v=glance)
http://www.trianglecables.com/pof-810.html (http://www.trianglecables.com/pof-810.html)
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Perhaps, though I would think with a voltage step up in there, it should be OK. I have split coax signals at least 5 times in the field and it seemed to work!
working and bit accuracy are different things
I would be really concerned about doing this with an optical signal though.
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those splitters look to be the opposite of what I need though.
1 toslink coming from a computer into the dac 1 toslink from the cd player into the dac.
It does not look like I could feed the computer/cd player into the dac with a splitter since from reading the description it is taking one source and feeding it into 2 different sources.
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I'll keep looking. Are you essentially saying, because I am a little confused, that you want to take two optical signals from two different source components, and feed one input without having to play around with connections?
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Perhaps, though I would think with a voltage step up in there, it should be OK. I have split coax signals at least 5 times in the field and it seemed to work!
working and bit accuracy are different things
I would be really concerned about doing this with an optical signal though.
Can you tell me why??
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I'll keep looking. Are you essentially saying, because I am a little confused, that you want to take two optical signals from two different source components, and feed one input without having to play around with connections?
correct 1 source is my cd player the other source will be a computer (HTPC)
I would like to take those 2 feeds and feed them into the DAC.
Which is why I inquired about the m-audio or Hosa converter box's.
I can switch a toslink to a spdif (coax) connection.
As I mentioned earlier I have 2 spdif inputs on the DAC but only one optical input...
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Perhaps, though I would think with a voltage step up in there, it should be OK. I have split coax signals at least 5 times in the field and it seemed to work!
working and bit accuracy are different things
I would be really concerned about doing this with an optical signal though.
Can you tell me why??
why to which?
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easiest bet could be to swap out your htpc soundcard for one with a coax digital out (i.e. an audiophile 2496, zoltrix nightingale, etc.), OR pick up a cd player/dvd transport with a coax out for cheap.
what soundcard are you currently using in your htpc?
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easiest bet could be to swap out your htpc soundcard for one with a coax digital out (i.e. an audiophile 2496, zoltrix nightingale, etc.), OR pick up a cd player/dvd transport with a coax out for cheap.
what soundcard are you currently using in your htpc?
I picked up a cheapy 7.1 dynex http://www.dynexproducts.com/pc-189-8-dynex-71-channel-pci-sound-card.aspx (http://www.dynexproducts.com/pc-189-8-dynex-71-channel-pci-sound-card.aspx) to use, I could use my delta dio 24/96 I suppose but I would rather keep it in the machine I do my editing on. When I bought the card I thought it said spdif, well it did but their spdif is actually optical. I will end up using my HTPC more than the cd player so I don't know maybe I will just deal with swapping cables.
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if you get a m902 you can feed it usb from your htpc ;) only 16/44.1 though...maybe 48 but not 24 (grace said it's a hardware limitation, which i do not believe because i have a u24 that does 24bit
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