Ok, so I have come to the point where my playback system has more toslink connections than spdif and I only have 1 toslink input on my current DAC.
I am considering getting a c02/c03 or a hosa or something of the likes.
Would any of you place a c0* in your playback stream knowing it is not bit perfect?
My playback system is nothing to write home about yet I still want it to be as good on playback as it can be.
I don't have any experience with these converters so I don't really know much about them. (what's their really to know?)
Basically I have 2 spdif and 1 optical in on the DAC, so I want to convert a optical to a spdif to input into the DAC
Thoughts?
Is the hosa box not bit perfect? If so, why not just use that instead of the co2? Any time you induce a transformation via another electrical box, whatever it is, it is going to have a negative impact on the signal. Whether or not you can hear it or not will ultimately be up to the resolution of your playback system. I can hear the differnce between digital cables, so YMMV.
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Quote from: -2000 ORIOLES RAWK on September 22, 2005, 04:19:35 PM
Is the hosa box not bit perfect? If so, why not just use that instead of the co2? Any time you induce a transformation via another electrical box, whatever it is, it is going to have a negative impact on the signal. Whether or not you can hear it or not will ultimately be up to the resolution of your playback system. I can hear the differnce between digital cables, so YMMV.
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price for one!
I hear you about the cables, the only other option is switching cables when I want to listen to a different component
I rather not get the box personally, yet I personally don't feel like monkeying around behind the system plugging unplugging
edit to add bah I just need to get a new dac that does 24/96 anyway at least. :-\
Quote from: Guinness Drinker on September 22, 2005, 04:27:53 PM
Quote from: -2000 ORIOLES RAWK on September 22, 2005, 04:19:35 PM
Is the hosa box not bit perfect? If so, why not just use that instead of the co2? Any time you induce a transformation via another electrical box, whatever it is, it is going to have a negative impact on the signal. Whether or not you can hear it or not will ultimately be up to the resolution of your playback system. I can hear the differnce between digital cables, so YMMV.
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price for one!
I hear you about the cables, the only other option is switching cables when I want to listen to a different component
I rather not get the box personally, yet I personally don't feel like monkeying around behind the system plugging unplugging
edit to add bah I just need to get a new dac that does 24/96 anyway at least. :-\
if you have a few hundred bucks why not get the bel canto dac 1.1- it does 24/96 and has an optical and coax in and then rca outs- you can feed from both as both are hot at the same time.
Quote from: BelmontRadiator on September 22, 2005, 04:38:08 PM
Quote from: Guinness Drinker on September 22, 2005, 04:27:53 PM
Quote from: -2000 ORIOLES RAWK on September 22, 2005, 04:19:35 PM
Is the hosa box not bit perfect? If so, why not just use that instead of the co2? Any time you induce a transformation via another electrical box, whatever it is, it is going to have a negative impact on the signal. Whether or not you can hear it or not will ultimately be up to the resolution of your playback system. I can hear the differnce between digital cables, so YMMV.
D----
price for one!
I hear you about the cables, the only other option is switching cables when I want to listen to a different component
I rather not get the box personally, yet I personally don't feel like monkeying around behind the system plugging unplugging
edit to add bah I just need to get a new dac that does 24/96 anyway at least. :-\
if you have a few hundred bucks why not get the bel canto dac 1.1- it does 24/96 and has an optical and coax in and then rca outs- you can feed from both as both are hot at the same time.
I need the money to get right somewhat again, team home ownership is dogging me.
It's a lot of work and money doing it by yourself.
while not cheap, digital patchbays are friggin sweet!
http://namm.harmony-central.com/SNAMM02/Content/Frontier_Design/PR/Apache.html
http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/Optipatch/
You could build a digital patchbay rather cheaply I would imagine.
Quote from: -2000 ORIOLES RAWK on September 23, 2005, 10:41:08 AM
You could build a digital patchbay rather cheaply I would imagine.
I'd rather spend the money towards updating my old dac to a newer one.
My adcom only has 1 optical and 2 spdif and only does 16 bit.
Well, I bet you could do it for about 20 bucks in parts. I will see what I can find for you. Do they make optical splitters like coax splitters? I would think this would work as well.
Quote from: -2000 ORIOLES RAWK on September 23, 2005, 12:29:13 PM
Well, I bet you could do it for about 20 bucks in parts. I will see what I can find for you. Do they make optical splitters like coax splitters? I would think this would work as well.
i would think you would have some serious degradation in signal.
Perhaps, though I would think with a voltage step up in there, it should be OK. I have split coax signals at least 5 times in the field and it seemed to work!
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0002MQGR2/103-3291729-6736621?v=glance (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0002MQGR2/103-3291729-6736621?v=glance)
http://www.trianglecables.com/pof-810.html (http://www.trianglecables.com/pof-810.html)
Quote from: -2000 ORIOLES RAWK on September 23, 2005, 01:04:34 PM
Perhaps, though I would think with a voltage step up in there, it should be OK. I have split coax signals at least 5 times in the field and it seemed to work!
working and bit accuracy are different things
I would be really concerned about doing this with an optical signal though.
those splitters look to be the opposite of what I need though.
1 toslink coming from a computer into the dac 1 toslink from the cd player into the dac.
It does not look like I could feed the computer/cd player into the dac with a splitter since from reading the description it is taking one source and feeding it into 2 different sources.
I'll keep looking. Are you essentially saying, because I am a little confused, that you want to take two optical signals from two different source components, and feed one input without having to play around with connections?
Quote from: BelmontRadiator on September 23, 2005, 01:47:56 PM
Quote from: -2000 ORIOLES RAWK on September 23, 2005, 01:04:34 PM
Perhaps, though I would think with a voltage step up in there, it should be OK. I have split coax signals at least 5 times in the field and it seemed to work!
working and bit accuracy are different things
I would be really concerned about doing this with an optical signal though.
Can you tell me why??
Quote from: -2000 ORIOLES RAWK on September 23, 2005, 04:17:15 PM
I'll keep looking. Are you essentially saying, because I am a little confused, that you want to take two optical signals from two different source components, and feed one input without having to play around with connections?
correct 1 source is my cd player the other source will be a computer (HTPC)
I would like to take those 2 feeds and feed them into the DAC.
Which is why I inquired about the m-audio or Hosa converter box's.
I can switch a toslink to a spdif (coax) connection.
As I mentioned earlier I have 2 spdif inputs on the DAC but only one optical input...
Quote from: -2000 ORIOLES RAWK on September 23, 2005, 04:17:56 PM
Quote from: BelmontRadiator on September 23, 2005, 01:47:56 PM
Quote from: -2000 ORIOLES RAWK on September 23, 2005, 01:04:34 PM
Perhaps, though I would think with a voltage step up in there, it should be OK. I have split coax signals at least 5 times in the field and it seemed to work!
working and bit accuracy are different things
I would be really concerned about doing this with an optical signal though.
Can you tell me why??
why to which?
easiest bet could be to swap out your htpc soundcard for one with a coax digital out (i.e. an audiophile 2496, zoltrix nightingale, etc.), OR pick up a cd player/dvd transport with a coax out for cheap.
what soundcard are you currently using in your htpc?
Quote from: dnsacks on September 23, 2005, 05:43:24 PM
easiest bet could be to swap out your htpc soundcard for one with a coax digital out (i.e. an audiophile 2496, zoltrix nightingale, etc.), OR pick up a cd player/dvd transport with a coax out for cheap.
what soundcard are you currently using in your htpc?
I picked up a cheapy 7.1 dynex http://www.dynexproducts.com/pc-189-8-dynex-71-channel-pci-sound-card.aspx (http://www.dynexproducts.com/pc-189-8-dynex-71-channel-pci-sound-card.aspx) to use, I could use my delta dio 24/96 I suppose but I would rather keep it in the machine I do my editing on. When I bought the card I thought it said spdif, well it did but their spdif is actually optical. I will end up using my HTPC more than the cd player so I don't know maybe I will just deal with swapping cables.
if you get a m902 you can feed it usb from your htpc ;) only 16/44.1 though...maybe 48 but not 24 (grace said it's a hardware limitation, which i do not believe because i have a u24 that does 24bit
http://cgi.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cl.pl?dgtlconv&1132796976 (http://cgi.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cl.pl?dgtlconv&1132796976)