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Title: Denon DAT to JB3 cable?
Post by: hitch on November 15, 2005, 08:31:38 PM
I need to transfer from a Denon DTR-80p to a JB3.
The DAT has Digital In/Out, and Line Out but no Optical Out (just Optical In); while the JB3 has an Optical/Line In, but no Digital In. 

(I tried a mini optical cable, but no dice. )

Do I have any other options besides going line out to do this?
Title: Re: Denon DAT to JB3 cable?
Post by: Brian Skalinder on November 15, 2005, 09:01:11 PM
The DAT has Digital In/Out

If it's S/PDIF or AES output, you can use a digital format converter between the DAT and JB3.  If S/PDIF, use a Hosa ODL-276 - it converts coax S/PDIF to optical and vice versa.  If AES, a Hosa ODL-312 - it converts AES to optical and vice versa (and I just happen to have one for sale).
Title: Re: Denon DAT to JB3 cable?
Post by: Chuck on November 15, 2005, 09:44:02 PM
The digital out on that deck is S/PDIF. Buy Brian's converter and you'll have what you need.
Title: Re: Denon DAT to JB3 cable?
Post by: Brian Skalinder on November 15, 2005, 09:50:36 PM
Buy Brian's converter and you'll have what you need.

Actually, I have the ODL-312, the AES <--> optical converter.  Though I think there's an ODL-276 in the Yard Sale forum.
Title: Re: Denon DAT to JB3 cable?
Post by: Chuck on November 15, 2005, 10:01:51 PM
Buy Brian's converter and you'll have what you need.

Actually, I have the ODL-312, the AES <--> optical converter.  Though I think there's an ODL-276 in the Yard Sale forum.

Opps...
What Brian said...  :-[
Title: Re: Denon DAT to JB3 cable?
Post by: hitch on November 15, 2005, 10:34:20 PM
Thanks Brian, and thanks Chuck! :) Soon I'll be able to give you guys +Ts.

The DAT has Digital In/Out

If it's S/PDIF or AES output, you can use a digital format converter between the DAT and JB3.  If S/PDIF, use a Hosa ODL-276 - it converts coax S/PDIF to optical and vice versa.  If AES, a Hosa ODL-312 - it converts AES to optical and vice versa (and I just happen to have one for sale).

Whoa, more conversions.  You learn something new everyday.
So RCA Connector is S/PDIF and XLR Connector is AES?

-Toni
Title: Re: Denon DAT to JB3 cable?
Post by: bagtagsell on November 16, 2005, 12:37:57 AM
a SPDIF cable has a phono (rca) plug

aes has an xlr connector

but the wires on the insider are all digital
Title: Re: Denon DAT to JB3 cable?
Post by: rowjimmytour on November 20, 2005, 11:17:21 AM
You could see if ya can borrow a UA5 too!!! This would convert the signal digital>digital w/ DAt>SPDIF(In)>UA5>Optical(Out)>NJB3
Peace
Title: Re: Denon DAT to JB3 cable?
Post by: TNJazz on November 21, 2005, 10:10:28 AM
a SPDIF cable has a phono (rca) plug

aes has an xlr connector

but the wires on the insider are all digital

S/PDIF is balanced on an AES/EBU connector, which is 110 ohm digital.  S/PDIF is unbalanced on a phono connector, which is 75 ohm digital.  You could compare it to using XLR cables vs. using RCA cables.  The main difference is the balanced/unbalanced aspect of it all.

Dirk
Title: Re: Denon DAT to JB3 cable?
Post by: johnw on November 21, 2005, 03:08:27 PM
You could see if ya can borrow a UA5 too!!! This would convert the signal digital>digital w/ DAt>SPDIF(In)>UA5>Optical(Out)>NJB3
Peace

I am 99% sure this would not work on a standalone UA5. I think this was covered and explained in another thread. Not sure about a stock UA5, but it would not be a bit accurate solution even if it worked.
Title: Re: Denon DAT to JB3 cable?
Post by: twatts (pants are so over-rated...) on November 21, 2005, 05:38:45 PM
You could see if ya can borrow a UA5 too!!! This would convert the signal digital>digital w/ DAt>SPDIF(In)>UA5>Optical(Out)>NJB3
Peace

This method resamples all of your data - the UA5 is known NOT to be bit-perfect for doing digital transfers.

The best bet is to buy a Hosa ODL 276 and convert the coax out to an opt in.

Terry
Title: Re: Denon DAT to JB3 cable?
Post by: hitch on December 05, 2005, 10:56:02 PM
Thanks guys for all your input. I'll be giving +Ts soon enough.