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Title: MicroTrack 2496 - Oade 1/8" mic pre upgrade
Post by: Brian Skalinder on November 26, 2005, 04:33:03 PM
Anyone try out or talk to Doug about the MicroTrack 2496 1/8" mic pre upgrade it seems they're offering now?  From their Recording Rigs (http://www.oade.com/Tapers_Section/rig_eight.html) section, MT2496 Stealth Recording Rig (http://www.oade.com/Tapers_Section/rig_eight.html) page:

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MT2496 Stealth One - PA Recording Rig

MicroTracker 24/96 w/ 1/8" Mic Pre Upgrade
Oade Micro Mics
Monster Rechargeable Kit

Recommended Variations

Sony ECM-MS957 Microphone
Audio Technica AT-822 Microphone
AKG CK31 or CK31 w/48 Volt Adapter
DPA 4061 plus MMA6000 Preamp
Title: Re: MicroTrack 2496 - Oade 1/8" mic pre upgrade
Post by: spoogles on November 26, 2005, 10:38:47 PM
how much is doug charging extra for the mod  and are they only doing them on MT's they sell?
Title: Re: MicroTrack 2496 - Oade 1/8" mic pre upgrade
Post by: udovdh on November 27, 2005, 11:31:52 AM
Who has more info about the functionality this mod provides?
Title: Re: MicroTrack 2496 - Oade 1/8" mic pre upgrade
Post by: Nick Graham on November 27, 2005, 12:08:52 PM
how much is doug charging extra for the mod  and are they only doing them on MT's they sell?

Doug only performs mods on products he sells, and this applies to any gear he offers mods for.

I was hoping Doug was going to mod the adc of the MT and not the preamp.
I'll be using mics that require P48 and an outboard pre for stealth situations, thus relying on the MT to do my analog>digital conversion.
Maybe there isn't anything he can do to improve it?



Not entirely true, he would mod an SBM1 regardless of where it was originally purchased.
Title: Re: MicroTrack 2496 - Oade 1/8" mic pre upgrade
Post by: Brian Skalinder on November 27, 2005, 01:25:27 PM
Who has more info about the functionality this mod provides?

Uhmmmm...the Oade Bros?  If you're interested in the mode, email or call them and let us know what you find out.

And I would assume Doug will stick with his recent policy of only modding units Oade Bros sells directly.
Title: Re: MicroTrack 2496 - Oade 1/8" mic pre upgrade
Post by: udovdh on November 28, 2005, 12:55:53 AM
Who has more info about the functionality this mod provides?

Uhmmmm...the Oade Bros? 
Yes, nice, but the posted url from their site gives little info...
Sent off the mail.
Title: Re: MicroTrack 2496 - Oade 1/8" mic pre upgrade
Post by: Sebastian on November 28, 2005, 12:05:17 PM
I need a mod that replaces the 1/4" inputs with RCA inputs ;)
Title: Re: MicroTrack 2496 - Oade 1/8" mic pre upgrade
Post by: keepongoin on November 28, 2005, 12:14:20 PM
this is added to the FAQ. hopefully they will get some more mods and mod units that they don't sell.

Title: Re: MicroTrack 2496 - Oade 1/8" mic pre upgrade
Post by: Zaphod on January 24, 2006, 04:24:28 PM
http://www.oade.com/Tapers_Section/Forum/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=100&topic_id=3486&mode=full&page= (http://www.oade.com/Tapers_Section/Forum/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=100&topic_id=3486&mode=full&page=)

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Hello !
I feel the analog noise is too audible to do much to it, especially via the TRS jacks. I feel an analog PCB rebuild is in order, perhaps let a analog PCB grounding engineer take a crack at it (not a crack pipe as these guys seem to have done !). The 3.5MM jack sounds best, hence I did do a bit to it. Mine has a full analog path upgrade but the MOD I offer is only an input overload MOD, it drops the fixed gain by 12dB, this makes it easy to use for music recording with the supplied T-Mic or DPA 4061s. Mine has the T-MOD type upgrade.
peace...Doug

So does this mean that the only benefit of the mod is in using the 1/8" mic in? What about 1/4" line in?


 
Title: Re: MicroTrack 2496 - Oade 1/8" mic pre upgrade
Post by: anhisr on January 24, 2006, 05:36:10 PM
"I feel the analog noise is too audible to do much to it, especially via the TRS jacks".  I think Doug said it all right there
Title: Re: MicroTrack 2496 - Oade 1/8" mic pre upgrade
Post by: bconnolly on January 24, 2006, 06:13:37 PM
"I feel the analog noise is too audible to do much to it, especially via the TRS jacks".  I think Doug said it all right there

Does that mean that it would be a better idea to run my CMC-8's into the 1/8" jack instead of passing it through the SP Mini TRS dongle?
Title: Re: MicroTrack 2496 - Oade 1/8" mic pre upgrade
Post by: SClassical on January 24, 2006, 09:00:42 PM
"noise is too audible, especially via the TRS jacks"

Don't understand...I thought we get more noise in a recording if we use the stock MT via 1/8 socket...thats why most people prefer using the 1/4 phono inputs...Also 1/8 use unbalance cable whereas 1/4 uses balance cables which is also a benefit. Am I mis-understanding something here?  ???
Title: Re: MicroTrack 2496 - Oade 1/8" mic pre upgrade
Post by: BC on January 24, 2006, 11:21:17 PM
I need a mod that replaces the 1/4" inputs with RCA inputs ;)

Go to Radio Shack, they have TRS to RCA adapters.


Title: Re: MicroTrack 2496 - Oade 1/8" mic pre upgrade
Post by: Zaphod on January 25, 2006, 02:36:17 AM
"I feel the analog noise is too audible to do much to it, especially via the TRS jacks".  I think Doug said it all right there

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Mine has a full analog path upgrade

So doesn't this include the 1/4" inputs?

I'm a little unclear about this mod, maybe I should just email Doug... :hmmm:
Title: Re: MicroTrack 2496 - Oade 1/8" mic pre upgrade
Post by: BC on January 25, 2006, 11:13:34 AM
"I feel the analog noise is too audible to do much to it, especially via the TRS jacks".  I think Doug said it all right there

So I guess the TRS inputs are noisier than the 1/8"? Seems strange that that would be the case.

Title: Re: MicroTrack 2496 - Oade 1/8" mic pre upgrade
Post by: SClassical on January 25, 2006, 11:54:33 AM
"I feel the analog noise is too audible to do much to it, especially via the TRS jacks".  I think Doug said it all right there

So I guess the TRS inputs are noisier than the 1/8"? Seems strange that that would be the case.



I think there is a misunderstanding here... don't understand why Doug said that. Either I misundertood something or maybe it was a mis-type. Definately messed up why we prefer 1/4 and the use of balance cables. I might email him and ask why he said it.  ???
Title: Re: MicroTrack 2496 - Oade 1/8" mic pre upgrade
Post by: neutrino on January 25, 2006, 04:56:38 PM
"I feel the analog noise is too audible to do much to it, especially via the TRS jacks".  I think Doug said it all right there

So I guess the TRS inputs are noisier than the 1/8"? Seems strange that that would be the case.



I think there is a misunderstanding here... don't understand why Doug said that. Either I misundertood something or maybe it was a mis-type. Definately messed up why we prefer 1/4 and the use of balance cables. I might email him and ask why he said it.  ???

Because, due to the way the MT24/96 was designed, the 1/4" inputs are the only inputs which can be used at a line level. In most cases, if you attempt to use the 1/8" input as a "line in" you risk distorting the signal. 
dB-



Title: Re: MicroTrack 2496 - Oade 1/8" mic pre upgrade
Post by: SClassical on January 25, 2006, 06:46:57 PM
Yes, that is what I thought... But Doug seem to think differently saying:
"I feel the analog noise is too audible, ESPECIALLY via the TRS jacks".   
Title: Re: MicroTrack 2496 - Oade 1/8" mic pre upgrade
Post by: cpatch on January 25, 2006, 07:32:58 PM
Yes, that is what I thought... But Doug seem to think differently saying:
"I feel the analog noise is too audible, ESPECIALLY via the TRS jacks".   

The 1/8" jack on mine is MUCH noisier than the TRS jacks. I was considering selling mine and buying one from Doug if he was upgrading the pre so I'm definitely bummed. Looks like I'll have to stick with an external.

Craig