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Title: Custom 1/8" Mod for AD-20
Post by: scoper on December 16, 2005, 11:02:54 AM
Fellow TS member Jason Reiser did a mod on my AD-20:

Remove the XLR inputs
Install a blank panel on the left slot
Install a 1/8" input in the right slot

Since I'm strictly stealth, this allows me to use the SP battery box directly into the AD-20, using the level controls and bass rolloff on the bb as needed to adjust the signal to the AD-20. It also gets rid of the bulky converter cable from 1/8" jack to dual XLR plugs.

The mod doesn't add plug in power to the AD-20, so the BB is still in the chain, but I imagine the mod would be a hell of a lot cheaper than the one by SoundPro or others.

I used this new arrangement last night, to great effect.

I can post pix (both exterior and interior) if there is any interest. Jason can provide the technical info as to the details of the mod.

Scott
Title: Re: Custom 1/8" Mod for AD-20
Post by: jdawg on December 16, 2005, 05:46:27 PM
Sounds cool, post a pic when you get a chance.



Title: Re: Custom 1/8" Mod for AD-20
Post by: scoper on December 16, 2005, 08:24:36 PM
Here are pics of the mod - I will have Jason come over and explain....
Title: Re: Custom 1/8" Mod for AD-20
Post by: poorlyconditioned on December 16, 2005, 09:54:39 PM
Fellow TS member Jason Reiser did a mod on my AD-20:

Remove the XLR inputs
Install a blank panel on the left slot
Install a 1/8" input in the right slot

Since I'm strictly stealth, this allows me to use the SP battery box directly into the AD-20, using the level controls and bass rolloff on the bb as needed to adjust the signal to the AD-20. It also gets rid of the bulky converter cable from 1/8" jack to dual XLR plugs.

The mod doesn't add plug in power to the AD-20, so the BB is still in the chain, but I imagine the mod would be a hell of a lot cheaper than the one by SoundPro or others.

I used this new arrangement last night, to great effect.

I can post pix (both exterior and interior) if there is any interest. Jason can provide the technical info as to the details of the mod.

Scott


Hey, while you've got that AD20 open...

Can you tell me:

- what preamp chips it is using?
- what kind of power supply to said preamp chips?  (Eg., LT1054 might be a good guess to get -9V for a +-9V split supply)
- what ADC is in there

Thanks!!!

  Richard
Title: Re: Custom 1/8" Mod for AD-20
Post by: willndmb on December 19, 2005, 12:08:55 PM
i wonder if you could do this in the side and still have the xlr active as well?
Title: Re: Custom 1/8" Mod for AD-20
Post by: cpatch on December 23, 2005, 03:11:53 AM
i wonder if you could do this in the side and still have the xlr active as well?

I was thinking the same thing.

Craig
Title: Re: Custom 1/8" Mod for AD-20
Post by: redbook on December 23, 2005, 03:59:13 AM
thats what the SP mod does: keeps the XLR and adds a mini plug input.
(http://www.soundprofessionals.com/mas_assets/full/DEN-AD20-MINI.jpg)
Title: Re: Custom 1/8" Mod for AD-20
Post by: rsimms3 on January 05, 2006, 07:30:10 PM
That is a lot cleaner than mine, where did you get the panels from to do your mod?
Title: Re: Custom 1/8" Mod for AD-20
Post by: lordbelial on January 16, 2006, 02:34:09 PM
Could somene with an SP modded AD-2o post some pictures to see how they have performed the mod?

Thanks!
Title: Re: Custom 1/8" Mod for AD-20
Post by: thunderbroom on January 16, 2006, 03:25:32 PM
That's just what I'd like to see as well.  I'd like to change out the XLRs and put the three wire battery box inside the AD-20.
Title: Re: Custom 1/8" Mod for AD-20
Post by: Sanjay on January 16, 2006, 03:32:38 PM
That's just what I'd like to see as well.  I'd like to change out the XLRs and put the three wire battery box inside the AD-20.

that would be easy and entirely possible.  All you need to do is run the 3 wire power in parallel to the AD-20 power in the 9v by figuring out where the power lead comes from the battery, then build the circuit from there with the output stage going straight into the output stage from the xlr's into the A/D's input.  The saved real estate from removing the xlr's would provide more than enough space.  It could probably could not be done while keeping the xlr's active however due to real estate issues and power issues.  I measured the draw from the 3 wire battery box to power from 45-50 hours on a conservative estimate so I'd imagine the power draw to the AD-20 would be minimal. 
Title: Re: Custom 1/8" Mod for AD-20
Post by: lordbelial on January 16, 2006, 04:45:52 PM
Well, a friend of mine has got an AD-20 modded by Sounpro.

I have asked him for photos of the inside of the AD-20 modded.

Asap I'll post them here.

Take care
Title: Re: Custom 1/8" Mod for AD-20
Post by: thunderbroom on March 25, 2006, 06:08:00 PM
I finally managed to fit the three wire BB into the AD-20.  I did attach an extra 9V ala the SP mod.  It works great , but there wasn't much room to solder after I layed it all out.  No pics because I did such a hack job...maybe when I redo it in the future.
Title: Re: Custom 1/8" Mod for AD-20
Post by: poorlyconditioned on March 26, 2006, 01:37:07 AM
I finally managed to fit the three wire BB into the AD-20.  I did attach an extra 9V ala the SP mod.  It works great , but there wasn't much room to solder after I layed it all out.  No pics because I did such a hack job...maybe when I redo it in the future.

+T for gear hacking, even if messy!  Don't forget the hot melt glue :)

  Richard
Title: Re: Custom 1/8" Mod for AD-20
Post by: jcrab66 on March 27, 2006, 04:02:34 PM
what sort of coax plug is that on the side of the ad20? ??? Almost looks like a regular 3.5mm
Title: Re: Custom 1/8" Mod for AD-20
Post by: jeromejello on March 27, 2006, 04:22:18 PM
what sort of coax plug is that on the side of the ad20? ??? Almost looks like a regular 3.5mm

that is exactly what kind it is, FWIBT
Title: Re: Custom 1/8" Mod for AD-20
Post by: jcrab66 on March 27, 2006, 06:26:20 PM


that is exactly what kind it is, FWIBT

interesting, i havent ever seen a coax cable terminated with that size connector
Title: Re: Custom 1/8" Mod for AD-20
Post by: jeromejello on March 27, 2006, 11:31:26 PM


that is exactly what kind it is, FWIBT

interesting, i havent ever seen a coax cable terminated with that size connector

me neither... custom job or adapters