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Title: Hiss redux in Wavelab
Post by: balou2 on February 17, 2006, 02:27:52 AM

Just got a copy of Wavelab, and am tryiing to learn it after years of SF.  Is there "hiss removal" technique?  I'm not looking specifically for a plug in as they generally take too much off, but where is this functionality located?  Will be used for transfering old cassette masters.

Title: Re: Hiss redux in Wavelab
Post by: Gordon on February 17, 2006, 02:37:38 AM

I toyed around and never was happy with anything.  I ended up being happy going cass > v3 > wavelab. 

Title: Re: Hiss redux in Wavelab
Post by: balou2 on February 17, 2006, 02:40:35 AM

SF has the different EQ functions that when used in combination with frequency analysis allow you pinpoint and process, but WL has better analysis all together.  If I could combine the two, I'd be set.

Title: Re: Hiss redux in Wavelab
Post by: F.O.Bean on February 17, 2006, 02:56:54 AM

pm sent

Title: Re: Hiss redux in Wavelab
Post by: Brian Skalinder on February 17, 2006, 03:02:10 AM

WL's clunky interface is one of the reasons I use Adobe Audition.  Anyway, I'm guessing what you're looking for is roughly:

Analysis | 3D Frequency Analysis
or
Analysis | Spectrum Analyzer or Meter (neither of which I could get to actually do anything just now)

Then, after getting an idea of where the hiss falls in the frequency spectrum, turn on the "Mastering Section":  Options | Use Mastering Section and try one or both of the following tools:

VST | DeNoiser
VST | Q

"Play" your file to hear the impact of the functions, and Render to apply them.  To be honest, I don't recall now if the VST's above came standard, or if I added them later.

I've tried and not found something as effective or as simple to use as AA's Noise Reduction utility with which one may take a snapshot of the noise (e.g. record a few seconds of nothing but blank tape) and then "remove" the noise using the analysis of the snapshot.  The key here is the settings are very configurable and customizable - the user has complete control over how much to trust the analysis, customize the frequencies targeted, establish how much to take out, whether to do it in one fell swoop or apply multiple minimum-impact passes, etc.  Takes an awful lot of fiddling to get it right, and less fiddling is more, if you know what I mean.  But it's worked fairly well for me in the past.  The Fs analysis and parametric EQ in AA also works well for this sorta thing.  Anyway, none of that helps you...sorry for the ramble.

Title: Re: Hiss redux in Wavelab
Post by: RebelRebel on February 17, 2006, 04:30:02 AM

I use bias soundsoap for that purpose and it works wonderfully.

Title: Re: Hiss redux in Wavelab
Post by: spoogles on February 17, 2006, 08:35:20 AM

VST denoiser has never done me wrong, takes cassette hiss right off with out sacrificing high end response.

Title: Re: Hiss redux in Wavelab
Post by: RebelRebel on February 17, 2006, 10:07:06 AM

oh yeah....I forgot to mention waves X Noise....one of the best as well.

Title: Re: Hiss redux in Wavelab
Post by: balou2 on February 18, 2006, 04:45:30 AM

+t's all around.  Thanks for the pointers.  The terminology in WL is much different than SF.