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Gear / Technical Help => Recording Gear => Topic started by: Netspeed on April 02, 2006, 01:05:37 AM
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I used my Edirol R1 for the first time today and when I went to playback with Sony Sound Forge 8.0, it doesn't open the file. I recorded it in 24bit/44.1 wav file. Am I missing a codec somewhere? I really want to use my Sound Forge to edit it. Hopefully there's an easy fix. I searched but could not find an answer.
Thanks to any all who can help.
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after you transfered the files to your computer did they play in anything? it's possible that the file transfered improperly or is just corrupt somehow and didn't tape right. check how large the files are because it's possible that SF8 just doesn't open fiels over 2gb. maybe try using wavelab or some other program if possible. if they won't play in ANYTHING though, try to retransfer the files.
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The obvious: do you have a 24 bit soundcard?
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The files are small....maybe 15-20mb.
If I didn't have a 24bit sound card, would that keep Sound Forge from opening the file? I could understand if it wouldn't produce any sound, but it doesn't even open the file. I can't find the audio card properties, but I'm using my 3 year old Compaq laptop so I'm betting that it's not 24 bit.
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One more thing....when I try and open it with Media Player 10, it says "error downloading codec".
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can you listen to it on the r-1 w/ headphones?
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can you listen to it on the r-1 w/ headphones?
Yes I can.
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can you download cdwav and play it in there?
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I don't have the correct line-in cables :(
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I don't have the correct line-in cables :(
not sure what you mean. I'm talking about the program CDWAV - a program many use for tracking. Another option would be to download Foobar2000 and try to play it with that. I'm pretty sure I've run into issues w/ programs like Media Player not playing a 24-bit file... those other two are two that I know will play it. However, I'm very surprised SF won't play it....
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I downloaded Foobar2000 and it plays fine. What do you thing is wrong with Sound Forge? I need a good audio because I'm taylor certain sounds as ringtones. I need a fade-in, fade-out, and the ability to "grab" about 25 seconds of audio.
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honestly, I couldn't tell you..... that sucks. Its really strange b/c that's a professional level program, and 24-bit is hardly rare in the professional world.... I'm 99% sure I had no problem with 24bit files in version 6, but I haven't tried it or used it in a long, long time.
You can use cdwav to cut your file into the time segment you want, but it won't do fades. There are some other free progs you can use for that - perhaps Audacity (http://audacity.sourceforge.net/about/features) will work for you? It says you can do volume fades.
hth...
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Thanks for all your help! I'm going to try Audacity and I'm going to contact Sony. Thanks again!
Keith
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I think I got a work-around. I use Audacity to download from the R1 and then save it as a wav file. Then I can use Sound Forge to play and tweak it. One thing I noticed though...it looks like the files are now 16 bit and not 24. I'm not sure if SF or Audacity is doing it.
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something is probably changing the header from 24 to 16... I bet its when you save using audacity. Then, because SF thinks its 16, it works... but its still 24, unless you dithered it.
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I didn't dither it....weird. So you think it might actually be still 24 bit?
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So you think it might actually be still 24 bit?
Doubtful. Audacity's default output format is 16-bit. Probably truncated from 24- to 16-bit. If you're on Windows, right-click and select Properties, and see what it says in the Summary tab.
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I use Audacity to download from the R1 and then save it as a wav file.
the file should already be a wav file on the R1. Instead of using audacity to download the file from the r1, try just copying the file from the r1 to your computer. When you hook up the R1 it should act as a drive under my computer, from there just copy the file over and then try opening it Sound Forge.
I use 24bit files in Sound Forge all the time, so I don't think thats your problem.
Can you record a 16bit file on the R1 or does it only do 24bit? If you're just making ringtones, it seems like 24bit would be overkill.
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you can record mp3, 16 bit and 24 bit on the R1. i just remove the flash card for the R1 and transfer the files via a standalone flash card reader that came with a digital camera. it should just be a drag and drop routine for transfering files, there's no reason to complicate it.
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I use Audacity to download from the R1 and then save it as a wav file.
the file should already be a wav file on the R1. Instead of using audacity to download the file from the r1, try just copying the file from the r1 to your computer. When you hook up the R1 it should act as a drive under my computer, from there just copy the file over and then try opening it Sound Forge.
I use 24bit files in Sound Forge all the time, so I don't think thats your problem.
Can you record a 16bit file on the R1 or does it only do 24bit? If you're just making ringtones, it seems like 24bit would be overkill.
I did all that you suggested. I followed the directions exactly as described in the R1 manual.
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you can record mp3, 16 bit and 24 bit on the R1. i just remove the flash card for the R1 and transfer the files via a standalone flash card reader that came with a digital camera. it should just be a drag and drop routine for transfering files, there's no reason to complicate it.
I'll remove the flashcard and try using it in a CF reader. I agree that 24 bit is a little overkill for ringtones but I always strive for the best quality.
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I *think* if the file is still 24bit, but the header says 16bit, so the computer thinks its 16bit, you shouldn't be able to burn it to a cd. I'd try that to see if it genuinely still is 24bit or not.
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I found the problem and now I feel stupid! :o
Although I have Sony Sound Forge, I only have the Audio Studio version. I checked Sony's website and it only handles 16bit whereas Sound Forge 8 handles everything.
Sorry for any problems!
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doh! Glad to hear its all worked out now dude. +T for working it out.