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Title: AKG 426B Blumlein Samples(edit for ACTUAL samples and not pop songs)
Post by: RebelRebel on April 10, 2006, 07:15:25 PM
I have no idea how that happened. Please folks, dont use the Beta you send it(for files over 300g) as I believe that the weirdness originated there...ill post the samples when they get finished uploading..

426B Blumlein>>>DAV BG-1 mic pre>>>Mytek Stereo 192>>>Digi In Zaxcom Deva V

Resampled/Dithered Using POW-R 3 Algorithm in Samplitude pro V8(16/44.1)>>Flac Frontend..I am glad to see the critiques/commentary on the MP3 though. Made me chuckle :)

Title: Re: AKG 426B Blumlein Samples
Post by: Ryan Sims on April 10, 2006, 10:22:06 PM
This sounds crazy good Teddy. 
Title: Re: AKG 426B Blumlein Samples
Post by: 284201 on April 11, 2006, 02:32:58 AM
426B Blumlein>>>DAV BG-1 mic pre>>>Mytek Stereo 192>>>Digi In Zaxcom Deva V

Nice Ray, you've got yourself a ten grand bit bucket.  ;)

All kidding aside, that sounds excellent.  I'd like to hear some comps between your normal gear and running straight into the Deva if possible.
Title: Re: AKG 426B Blumlein Samples
Post by: Brian Skalinder on April 11, 2006, 02:41:26 AM
Was this compressed in post?  Or were the levels just run real hot?  Things sound a little saturated/fuzzy/distorted/crunchy at points during louder section.  Maybe just an MP3 issue, or my crappy-at-the-moment headphone playback setup.  At any rate...nice the L/R stereo imaging.
Title: Re: AKG 426B Blumlein Samples
Post by: RebelRebel on April 11, 2006, 04:53:50 AM
Was this compressed in post?  Or were the levels just run real hot?  Things sound a little saturated/fuzzy/distorted/crunchy at points during louder section.  Maybe just an MP3 issue, or my crappy-at-the-moment headphone playback setup.  At any rate...nice the L/R stereo imaging.

Wasnt touched in post(other than dither/resample ), and levels peaked at -10.
Title: Re: AKG 426B Blumlein Samples
Post by: Brian Skalinder on April 11, 2006, 11:02:07 AM
Wasnt touched in post(other than dither/resample ), and levels peaked at -10.

Something odd's going on, then.  After listening, I checked out the clip in Audition and there's a fair amount of clipping from the 1:30 mark onwards (to the tune of ~800 samples per channel).  What are you using for dither?  I wonder if maybe you're using a dither scheme within a compressor, like Waves L2/3, and accidently had the compressor turned on during the processing.  I know I've done it before!  I don't know of anything in the MP3 conversion process proper that would cause this, so that's my first guess.

This can't possibly be live - there's no crowd whatsoever.  But maybe that's just the super-polite European audience effect.  ???  Live show, or just setting up playback of studio material to get a feel for how the gear sounds?  Not trying to knock this thing, just seeking to understand what exactly I'm listening to.

426B Blumlein>>>DAV BG-1 mic pre>>>Mytek Stereo 192>>>Digi In Zaxcom Deva V

Just noticed this...when did you get a Deva V?!?!???  Or is this a loaner?  Either way...   :drool:
Title: Re: AKG 426B Blumlein Samples
Post by: RebelRebel on April 11, 2006, 02:06:04 PM
Wasnt touched in post(other than dither/resample ), and levels peaked at -10.

Something odd's going on, then.  After listening, I checked out the clip in Audition and there's a fair amount of clipping from the 1:30 mark onwards (to the tune of ~800 samples per channel).  What are you using for dither?  I wonder if maybe you're using a dither scheme within a compressor, like Waves L2/3, and accidently had the compressor turned on during the processing.  I know I've done it before!  I don't know of anything in the MP3 conversion process proper that would cause this, so that's my first guess.

This can't possibly be live - there's no crowd whatsoever.  But maybe that's just the super-polite European audience effect.  ???  Live show, or just setting up playback of studio material to get a feel for how the gear sounds?  Not trying to knock this thing, just seeking to understand what exactly I'm listening to.

426B Blumlein>>>DAV BG-1 mic pre>>>Mytek Stereo 192>>>Digi In Zaxcom Deva V

Just noticed this...when did you get a Deva V?!?!???  Or is this a loaner?  Either way...   :drool:

It is live, 100%. At times you can hear coughing in the background. The church was at full capacity. (600+)Thats just how German audiences are, especially during this sort of event.
Maybe something happened in the dither process, because it isnt clipping on my end, I made sure of that during the recording and ive listened through twice already completely on both my good monitors, my crappy monitors, and my really crappy monitors...Dither was POW-R 3, within samplitude pro v8. Spark E saw something weird last time I posted a dithered sample , ill see.

Teddy
Title: Re: AKG 426B Blumlein Samples
Post by: RebelRebel on April 11, 2006, 02:08:12 PM
Oh yeah...is it sample 1,2, or 3??

The Deva is a loaner, im using it for this run of gigs while I get my own multitrack setup together. Dont own one ..yet. :)

Teddy
Title: Re: AKG 426B Blumlein Samples
Post by: Brian Skalinder on April 11, 2006, 02:28:15 PM
It is live, 100%. At times you can hear coughing in the background. The church was at full capacity. (600+)Thats just how German audiences are, especially during this sort of event.

That's simply amazing to me.  Wish I experienced crowds that respectful over here!

Maybe something happened in the dither process, because it isnt clipping on my end, I made sure of that during the recording and ive listened through twice already completely on both my good monitors, my crappy monitors, and my really crappy monitors...Dither was POW-R 3, within samplitude pro v8. Spark E saw something weird last time I posted a dithered sample , ill see.

Might be worth checking out if you're also releasing 16-bit copies.  Or maybe it's part of the MP3 conversion, though I've never seen an option to add gain or compress during MP3 conversion.  Good stuff...love how you can hear the drums/toms switch L and R.

Oh yeah...is it sample 1,2, or 3??

Dunno if that's directed at me.  If so, I d/l the only file availble:  "view - Jan 16, 2005 23.35.23.mp3" from here:  http://download.yousendit.com/61913D8B52A0FDD5
Title: Re: AKG 426B Blumlein Samples
Post by: RebelRebel on April 11, 2006, 02:31:14 PM
It is live, 100%. At times you can hear coughing in the background. The church was at full capacity. (600+)Thats just how German audiences are, especially during this sort of event.

That's simply amazing to me.  Wish I experienced crowds that respectful over here!

Maybe something happened in the dither process, because it isnt clipping on my end, I made sure of that during the recording and ive listened through twice already completely on both my good monitors, my crappy monitors, and my really crappy monitors...Dither was POW-R 3, within samplitude pro v8. Spark E saw something weird last time I posted a dithered sample , ill see.

Might be worth checking out if you're also releasing 16-bit copies.  Or maybe it's part of the MP3 conversion, though I've never seen an option to add gain or compress during MP3 conversion.  Good stuff...love how you can hear the drums/toms switch L and R.

Oh yeah...is it sample 1,2, or 3??

Dunno if that's directed at me.  If so, I d/l the only file availble:  "view - Jan 16, 2005 23.35.23.mp3" from here:  http://download.yousendit.com/61913D8B52A0FDD5

Jesus I am a f_+_+@_ing idiot. ! I sent  the wrong files.  ::) Let it fly ..I deserve it.I will resend the ACTUAL samples. Lord have mercy, Teddy..... 

Edit/

What the blue F()(Ck is that???Ive never even heard that song..... dont know how that got sent..Now im confused...but at the same time amused that people were critiquing a studio song.  ;D
Brian..I was wondering why you called the song Tallulah. I guess that is the name of the group. I just signed up for a you send it Beta account(files over 300G) ...weird stuff...

edit again...that is NOT the song I uploaded..I uploaded 3 flac files. no mp3s..I dont even have pop on my computer.......

Teddy
Title: Re: AKG 426B Blumlein Samples(edit for ACTUAL samples and not pop songs)
Post by: TNJazz on April 11, 2006, 03:07:53 PM
I was wondering who let those drums and the Klaus Meine impersonator into the church...
Title: Re: AKG 426B Blumlein Samples(edit for ACTUAL samples and not pop songs)
Post by: RebelRebel on April 11, 2006, 03:09:28 PM
I was wondering who let those drums and the Klaus Meine impersonator into the church...

you and me both!!Here I was arguiing that the files werent clipping, that I didnt use a compressor, that it was live... ::) I am really curious how that happened...
Title: Re: AKG 426B Blumlein Samples(edit for ACTUAL samples and not pop songs)
Post by: Brian on April 11, 2006, 03:09:38 PM
:lol:

i wasn't gonna say anything but.......

lookin forward to the actual clip :)
Title: Re: AKG 426B Blumlein Samples
Post by: 284201 on April 11, 2006, 03:11:07 PM
Jesus I am a f_+_+@_ing idiot. ! I sent  the wrong files.  ::) Let it fly ..I deserve it.I will resend the ACTUAL samples. Lord have mercy, Teddy..... 

Nice. I wasn't a fan of the Eurotrash love song, but it sure sounded good.   :lol:
Title: Re: AKG 426B Blumlein Samples(edit for ACTUAL samples and not pop songs)
Post by: RebelRebel on April 11, 2006, 03:13:20 PM
:lol:

i wasn't gonna say anything but.......

lookin forward to the actual clip :)

dude, let it fly.i ;D..Only thing is...I have no idea how it happened. I didnt even upload an mp3, dont have any MP3s on this PC.   ???

284201, you should send the band an email and tell them that it sounded excellent. I am sure theyd appreciate it.  ;D
Title: Re: AKG 426B Blumlein Samples(edit for ACTUAL samples and not pop songs)
Post by: 284201 on April 11, 2006, 03:43:42 PM
284201, you should send the band an email and tell them that it sounded excellent. I am sure theyd appreciate it.  ;D

I thought it sounded excellent when I believed it to be a stereo mic and some quality two-channel gear set up in the middle of amorous Europeans.

I look forward to the actual samples, but this thread has been worth it for the simple fact that despite all his denials, we now know what Teddy really listens to when he's all alone.
Title: Re: AKG 426B Blumlein Samples(edit for ACTUAL samples and not pop songs)
Post by: RebelRebel on April 11, 2006, 03:48:40 PM
284201, you should send the band an email and tell them that it sounded excellent. I am sure theyd appreciate it.  ;D

I thought it sounded excellent when I believed it to be a stereo mic and some quality two-channel gear set up in the middle of amorous Europeans.

I look forward to the actual samples, but this thread has been worth it for the simple fact that despite all his denials, we now know what Teddy really listens to when he's all alone.

 ;DGood one. Ill never live it down.  :-[ :) I wouldve been clueless the whole time had Skalinder not pointed out the compression thing....
Title: Re: AKG 426B Blumlein Samples(edit for ACTUAL samples and not pop songs)
Post by: RebelRebel on April 11, 2006, 03:51:32 PM
http://s60.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=02BMSGBNRW7WI0XWKCQMW3WH7W  real sample #1
Title: Re: AKG 426B Blumlein Samples(edit for ACTUAL samples and not pop songs)
Post by: Brian Skalinder on April 11, 2006, 03:56:25 PM
http://s60.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=02BMSGBNRW7WI0XWKCQMW3WH7W  real sample #1

But...but...that's real sample #3!  :P

Title: Re: AKG 426B Blumlein Samples(edit for ACTUAL samples and not pop songs)
Post by: TNJazz on April 11, 2006, 03:57:49 PM
Sample 3 turns into sample 1 when it's compressed  :P
Title: Re: AKG 426B Blumlein Samples(edit for ACTUAL samples and not pop songs)
Post by: RebelRebel on April 11, 2006, 04:01:01 PM
 ;D ;D
Title: Re: AKG 426B Blumlein Samples(edit for ACTUAL samples and not pop songs)
Post by: cfbarlow on April 14, 2006, 04:42:03 PM
I'm listening to this right now.  Amazing recording!  The pre- the adc- the mics-  everything is sublime.


Can I get this whole show?

+t


-Charlie
Title: Re: AKG 426B Blumlein Samples(edit for ACTUAL samples and not pop songs)
Post by: RebelRebel on April 14, 2006, 05:42:25 PM
I'm listening to this right now.  Amazing recording!  The pre- the adc- the mics-  everything is sublime.


Can I get this whole show?

+t


-Charlie

Sure thing Charlie. Shoot me a PM with your address.
Title: Re: AKG 426B Blumlein Samples(edit for ACTUAL samples and not pop songs)
Post by: RebelRebel on April 15, 2006, 10:49:58 AM
http://s64.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1ZG1LGLRQAHWC3641WLC8VO6NR

more samples..
Title: Re: AKG 426B Blumlein Samples(edit for ACTUAL samples and not pop songs)
Post by: BobW on April 16, 2006, 08:38:50 PM
Wow !


not  pop songs

I was mid-way through The Mix by Kraftwerk when I stumbled on this thread.
Paused the album to hear the samples and haven't gone back.            ;D
Title: Re: AKG 426B Blumlein Samples(edit for ACTUAL samples and not pop songs)
Post by: audBall on April 16, 2006, 08:40:57 PM
Sounds real good, Ray.  I can't wait to get my G's in a classical setting sometime.