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Title: David Gilmour insane bass...need to rolloff in post.
Post by: gotfob on April 19, 2006, 06:18:36 PM
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Title: Re: David Gilmour insane bass...need to rollof in post.
Post by: gotfob on April 19, 2006, 08:58:12 PM
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Title: Re: David Gilmour insane bass...need to rolloff in post.
Post by: Trevor A on April 20, 2006, 10:33:25 AM
Sorry, I don't use windows, so I'm not familiar with that
software. I like to use sox for bass rolloff. It has a nice
gentle 6db per octive highpass filter. You can get it from
http://sox.sourceforge.net - There is a windows binary
available.

I usually rolloff at 100 or 80 hz. If it is really bass
heavy, I run it multiple times.

sox infile.wav outfile.wav highp 100

Btw, I grabbed 4/17/06 from Dime last night. That is realy 
sweet! :)
Title: Re: David Gilmour insane bass...need to rolloff in post.
Post by: Sparge Master on April 20, 2006, 11:23:25 AM
You should be able to do a highpass filter on both of those programs. I forget what the option is called if it is not EQ or Parametric or 4band. Just go through them and look. Once you run it save as and give both a god listen in different systems even if it is just a clip of each. I would say anywhere from 69-120Hz would be suitable
Title: Re: David Gilmour insane bass...need to rolloff in post.
Post by: Sparge Master on April 20, 2006, 11:25:19 AM
80 khz filter and the tapes are super sic

80KHz wow that is high. I didnt even think my mics picked up beyond 20KHz-ish
Title: Re: David Gilmour insane bass...need to rolloff in post.
Post by: itook2much on April 20, 2006, 11:44:50 AM
80 khz filter and the tapes are super sic

80KHz wow that is high. I didnt even think my mics picked up beyond 20KHz-ish

Yeah, but man it gives that Km 140 >Mp 2 > M1 set-up such a clear, transparent sound ;)
Title: Re: David Gilmour insane bass...need to rolloff in post.
Post by: neutrino on April 20, 2006, 12:19:59 PM
Just suggesting here - but why not just torrent the files as is, and let others do there own EQ. I know a lot of people prefer the sound of subtle EQ via a stereo component rather than software EQ which can sound, harsh...
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Title: Re: David Gilmour insane bass...need to rolloff in post.
Post by: sleepypedro on April 20, 2006, 01:07:33 PM
Just suggesting here - but why not just torrent the files as is, and let others do there own EQ. I know a lot of people prefer the sound of subtle EQ via a stereo component rather than software EQ which can sound, harsh...
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motion seconded!   ;D
Title: Re: David Gilmour insane bass...need to rolloff in post.
Post by: gotfob on April 20, 2006, 05:18:18 PM
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Title: Re: David Gilmour insane bass...need to rolloff in post.
Post by: Sparge Master on April 20, 2006, 05:53:26 PM
Look for something call graphic eq, parametric eq, or highpass filter or bass rolloff in SF there with any of those you should be able to reduce the amount of bass. You shouldnt need much more than roll off at 69Hz-100Hz
Title: Re: David Gilmour insane bass...need to rolloff in post.
Post by: gotfob on April 20, 2006, 06:13:08 PM
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Title: Re: David Gilmour insane bass...need to rolloff in post.
Post by: gotfob on April 20, 2006, 06:32:10 PM
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Title: Re: David Gilmour insane bass...need to rolloff in post.
Post by: Brian Skalinder on April 20, 2006, 06:42:01 PM
here's a sample echoes...the bass is tamed a bit when rolled off, but the recording is brittle in the loud passages, that's what needs worka s well. It's not fom going over "o"...maybe the mp2 is the culprit...cuz I did run a lil gain on night 1 Vs zero gain on night 2...lemme know what you think or can do!

The raw source sounds great as is, IMO, no "work" necessary.
Title: Re: David Gilmour insane bass...need to rolloff in post.
Post by: gotfob on April 20, 2006, 06:52:03 PM
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Title: Re: David Gilmour insane bass...need to rolloff in post.
Post by: Brian Skalinder on April 20, 2006, 10:25:00 PM
seriously? must be playback gear then...cuz It's not right on my end....did you grab night 2?

Seriously.  But I like robust bass.  Didn't used to, but as my playback system has improved (and it still has a looooong way to go), I'm more of a basshound now than I used to be.  I just don't feel like the recordings "take me back" without a robust low end providing impact on playback.  The rolled off source doesn't sound bad, mind you, I just prefer the raw source.  Ultimately, it's your recording - do what you wanna do.
Title: Re: David Gilmour insane bass...need to rolloff in post.
Post by: Gordon on April 21, 2006, 01:15:26 AM
here's a sample echoes...the bass is tamed a bit when rolled off, but the recording is brittle in the loud passages, that's what needs worka s well. It's not fom going over "o"...maybe the mp2 is the culprit...cuz I did run a lil gain on night 1 Vs zero gain on night 2...lemme know what you think or can do!

The raw source sounds great as is, IMO, no "work" necessary.

qft  much better imo than the second one with rolloff.  I don't have that good of system (athena home theater) and it sounds fine.  nice bass but not muddy at all.
Title: Re: David Gilmour insane bass...need to rolloff in post.
Post by: gotfob on April 21, 2006, 02:16:30 AM
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Title: Re: David Gilmour insane bass...need to rolloff in post.
Post by: china_rider on April 21, 2006, 02:29:32 AM
I too like the first one better with a little bit of EQ on the play back side... I vote for keep it like it is. t+

My .02 is that 99% of the time leave the recording as is and let people adjust it to the way they like it as they listen.  Even if you eq it or run a notch filter listeners will probably end up adjusting it anyway.  I'd rather have the exact source and adjust it the way I want it in play back.

I know another taper that took a road trip for these shows from Phoenix.  I've only heard a sample from one night so far but it seems pretty similar to the untouched version to my ears.



Title: Re: David Gilmour insane bass...need to rolloff in post.
Post by: gotfob on April 21, 2006, 02:34:59 AM
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Title: Re: David Gilmour insane bass...need to rolloff in post.
Post by: kirk97132 on April 23, 2006, 05:58:39 PM
IN SF I have used the paragraphic to eq bass, you can also stack the cuts if you need more too.