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Title: mixing 2 sources
Post by: plucks on May 19, 2006, 07:29:18 PM

hey all-
i am working to mix a sbd & aud in either wavelab, or cool edit.
it seems that while the total sets are easy to notice as the same amt of time, mixing them down without any of the phasing is not as easy...of course

so, does anyone have any tricks on stretch/shrinking sections to help them line up properly??

thanks!

Title: Re: mixing 2 sources
Post by: halleyscomet8 on May 19, 2006, 07:34:10 PM

http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=44072.0

this is what i used.

Title: Re: mixing 2 sources
Post by: plucks on May 22, 2006, 07:20:01 PM

yes this is a good source for how to make the montage, no doubt about it

i was more curious how people "stretch or shrink" audio files to match up...i jimmy rigged it and it seems to have worked out.
i know this isnt the best method, but i have erased certain miliseconds on the lesser mixed source & moved the files to match waveforms in WaveLab4.
It works & there are no audibles on the sections that have been erased.

Title: Re: mixing 2 sources
Post by: dmonterisi on May 22, 2006, 07:22:32 PM

chop up the sbd into individual tracks since there will be hardly any audible levels in between tracks and then sync up each sbd track to the aud track in the wavelab montage.  it takes a good bit of effort but results are good. 

Title: Re: mixing 2 sources
Post by: plucks on May 22, 2006, 08:20:13 PM

i found a similar but better method...since they are defintiely out of synch well before each track i have to edit multiple times in each track.  Maybe i am trying to get it too perfect  ;)


rather than erasing data, i just split the file (starting with the whole file) - image 1to3 - & using the auto crossfade, i move the later parts towards the beginning - image 4&5.

all i know is that the result of disk 1 is awesome!!! 

Title: Re: mixing 2 sources
Post by: mmedley. on May 22, 2006, 08:27:58 PM

Damons method is what I use, cut the board up and align each track to master AUD. You will have some sbd tracks "overlap" at the beginning/end due to differing clocks and some sbd track splits that might have a millisecond or 2 "break" in them. I sometimes will crossfade the sbd tracks if needed. I rarely use time stretch. You can do it that way, but I didn't like the results the few times I have done it that way.

Title: Re: mixing 2 sources
Post by: mmedley. on May 22, 2006, 08:31:08 PM

Quote from: plucks on May 22, 2006, 08:20:13 PM

i found a similar but better method...since they are defintiely out of synch well before each track i have to edit multiple times in each track.  Maybe i am trying to get it too perfect  ;)


rather than erasing data, i just split the file (starting with the whole file) - image 1to3 - & using the auto crossfade, i move the later parts towards the beginning - image 4&5.

all i know is that the result of disk 1 is awesome!!! 

Yeah, that is basically what you do via sbd cut method. You usually want to do it in 5 minute or so clips since drift can get pretty bad depending. ;)