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Title: recording been 'remastered'
Post by: Popmarter on June 15, 2006, 01:58:51 AM
probably mentioned something similar before, but there is a bit frustration here.

i uploaded a great recording to dime and some other torrent-site.. Now someone else is reposting it, with the difference. He gave it a stupid name (in my original dime-posting i asked people not to do so), pretended it to be from some 'big' label as he describes it as a "Original Silvers -> wav - > flac". Like he 'discovered' something new. Now people go like, "wow, another good 'label-name' release", "'label-name' always delivers quality" and more of this bullsh$t.

Now its not that i want all the credits, but someone else hanging out being 'the big man' is kinda frustrating.
Title: Re: recording been 'remastered'
Post by: china_rider on June 15, 2006, 02:26:35 AM
Yea... it would be nice to get the credit... but what can you do.

Sort of sounds like Harvested for Pink Floyd shows.  Of course since taping was a no-no noone got credit but anytime I saw a harvested release I knew I wanted it.  They had some stuff that was in general circulation just remastered and then a bunch of stuff from the vaults that no one would have ever seen if it was not for them.  Good times.
Title: Re: recording been 'remastered'
Post by: bconnolly on June 15, 2006, 04:49:58 AM
Relish in the fact that "label-name" is really you.  You can be like the Wizard of Oz.

Though, it does suck.  I understand.
Title: Re: recording been 'remastered'
Post by: morningdew on June 15, 2006, 08:27:20 AM
I know I'm in the minority.

But...put something out for free that literally billions of people can pick up...wake up the next morning and someone is somehow doing something with it you don't like and your surpised?

If you post this stuff you just have to expect that people are going to abuse it, it's part of the game.

Wether they sell it, remaster it, degrade it by screwing up the lineage, drop the text info, lie and take credit for it, the band grabs it and sells it without giving you credit, etc....have I missed anything...it's just bound happen.
Title: Re: recording been 'remastered'
Post by: Kevin Straker on June 15, 2006, 08:49:57 AM
WTF is an original silver? What does the color of the disc have to do with the quality of the music? .....another good reason not to use Dime.
Title: Re: recording been 'remastered'
Post by: macdaddy on June 15, 2006, 08:55:41 AM
an original silver is a boot cd...

one that has been pressed and then sold...

this is in contrast to a CD-R copy of the same title...

original silver in the lineage would mean that there has only been one, proper, dae step...
Title: Re: recording been 'remastered'
Post by: Popmarter on June 15, 2006, 09:48:31 AM
Well, i really do not know where this guy got the 'Original Silvers' got from. I just think he made that up....to make it look more intresting, while in fact he did nothing else than (getting) it remastered.

yes, i know..when it out there, its out there. saw it being sold too, well first time, never again.
Title: Re: recording been 'remastered'
Post by: twatts (pants are so over-rated...) on June 15, 2006, 11:54:39 AM
Which show is it???

T

Title: Re: recording been 'remastered'
Post by: chucky on June 15, 2006, 01:00:49 PM
Well, i really do not know where this guy got the 'Original Silvers' got from. I just think he made that up....to make it look more intresting, while in fact he did nothing else than (getting) it remastered.

yes, i know..when it out there, its out there. saw it being sold too, well first time, never again.

Since it was being sold it musta got silvered, then dude bought it thinking it was something new,
and torrented it. 
Title: Re: recording been 'remastered'
Post by: Popmarter on June 15, 2006, 02:35:42 PM
Well, i really do not know where this guy got the 'Original Silvers' got from. I just think he made that up....to make it look more intresting, while in fact he did nothing else than (getting) it remastered.

yes, i know..when it out there, its out there. saw it being sold too, well first time, never again.

Since it was being sold it musta got silvered, then dude bought it thinking it was something new,
and torrented it. 

No, he contacted me directly after i put it up on Dime, about something else. He knows it's my recording,  my alias is put in the txt file too. I did not make silvers. Can't imagine he made Silvers (bootlegs) and put those back to FLac.
Title: Re: recording been 'remastered'
Post by: Popmarter on June 15, 2006, 02:36:06 PM
Which show is it???

T



Springsteen - paris 2006
Title: Re: recording been 'remastered'
Post by: Popmarter on June 16, 2006, 03:12:20 AM
in addition, looks like it truly is bootlegged, http://www.albamusic.hu/show.php?id=6737

well, i knew this would happen.

For those intrested:

the boot: http://jungleland.dnsalias.com:6969/torrents-details.php?id=28058
the original: http://jungleland.dnsalias.com:6969/torrents-details.php?id=27949

Title: Re: recording been 'remastered'
Post by: Evil Taper on June 17, 2006, 01:50:53 AM
Fuck Dime!
Title: Re: recording been 'remastered'
Post by: nihilistic0 on June 19, 2006, 01:27:29 PM
eh, theres gonna be asshats everywhere.  if you want totaly control over your recording, then never release it.

It's something that all of us tapers need to come to terms with.  Once a recording is released out into the public, anything can happen.  You can't stop it, the most you can do is inform and educate people.  Hoarding solves nothing, it seems to foster resentment more than anything


whatev
Title: Re: recording been 'remastered'
Post by: Chrisedge on June 21, 2006, 06:16:25 PM
I know of at least 3 different silvers of just ONE of my shows. Not much you can do, unless you want to sit on it. I just wish the bootleggers would send me a copy ;) so I would have them on silver.
Title: Re: recording been 'remastered'
Post by: cyfan on July 05, 2006, 01:58:59 PM
I have started adding this to the .txt file of any show I torrent on DIME:

"CAVEAT: I've given up on trying to maintain integrity of my masters once they're out in the world. Feel free to convert to 96kbps mp3 and email them to friends. Remaster, reseed. Add huge gaps between tracks. I really don't give a crap. BUT DO NOT SELL THIS RECORDING!!!"

Such is life in the digital age.