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Title: Help with geting some new mics
Post by: bl6216@yahoo.com on June 26, 2006, 01:52:26 AM
At this time I am runing sp c4 and have about $1500 to spend on a new set on mics. I was look at mbho 603a/KA 200 N. The other mics that I were looking at were akg 480 and nuemann SKM 184s .I did a search on here and came up with a lot of good things about all the mics that I was look at. I also got some show taped with them to see what they sound like to my ears. Are there any other mics that are in the same ball park that go for about the same and I will  also be useing them with a  SD 722. Thanks for all the help and making this place a grate place for info on tapeing.
Title: Re: Help with geting some new mics
Post by: anodyne33 on June 26, 2006, 10:47:13 AM
i say full set of 480s
Title: Re: Help with geting some new mics
Post by: jeromejello on June 26, 2006, 10:55:44 AM
team akg owns you!

actually, if you were thinking of a 140 kit... maybe, but only b/c its got some versaltility that the akgs dont (actives and fig 8 caps).... but i think straight into the 722, the 480s will sound better... dont they anyways...  :P

**edit to add** i would probably get the mbhos if the actives/fig 8 was peaking your interest... save some cash
Title: Re: Help with geting some new mics
Post by: kskreider on June 26, 2006, 11:02:00 AM
A used Neumann SKM-140 kit

 ;D
Title: Re: Help with geting some new mics
Post by: macroint on June 26, 2006, 11:07:30 AM
I recently switched from the C4's to Peluso and love it! Check out Nick's Picks review:

http://www.nickspicks.com/
Title: Re: Help with geting some new mics
Post by: paullySC on June 26, 2006, 01:22:10 PM
I recently switched from the C4's to Peluso and love it! Check out Nick's Picks review:

http://www.nickspicks.com/


I've been considering making this change myself. How noticable was the difference? I think I need to hear some more shows taped with the Peluso mics.

Paul
Title: Re: Help with geting some new mics
Post by: stirinthesauce on June 26, 2006, 02:07:03 PM
I recently switched from the C4's to Peluso and love it! Check out Nick's Picks review:

http://www.nickspicks.com/


I've been considering making this change myself. How noticable was the difference? I think I need to hear some more shows taped with the Peluso mics.

Paul



do a search with my screen name on bt.etree and there should be several torrents from b'roo going if you want to download some.
Haven't uploaded any to the archive but J.T. uploaded one of my Outformation recordings to archive.  Really sweet matrix.  Just do a search there for my real name, Jon Buffington, and you can stream it.
Title: Re: Help with geting some new mics
Post by: bl6216@yahoo.com on June 26, 2006, 03:30:14 PM
**edit to add** i would probably get the mbhos if the actives/fig 8 was peaking your interest... save some cash**

jeromejello actives were one of the thing about the mbho that I liked and also they sound grate to me. With the fig 8 caps I don't know that much about them were would one use a set of them.


do a search with my screen name on bt.etree and there should be several torrents from b'roo

stirinthesauce I did get the phil and petty set and they were some nice sounding show. What tipe of show do you most tape with your mics. Most of the time I tape in the beacon theater, and other small clubs, ball rooms in nyc and nj. So did you use them indoors yet and if so how do you think they stand up. Did you post any of the indoor show if you taped any.

Title: Re: Help with geting some new mics
Post by: RebelRebel on June 26, 2006, 03:57:01 PM
go to the archive and listen to a bunch of different mic sources. take the suggestions and use them as candidates for your listening, but by no means take any opinion here as gospel, including mine. ears are very different....there are a lot more options than the "common" ones used here such as the AT 4050s, ADKS, Josephsons...earthworks..the list goes on and on. I will tell you this...Last week I had a mic shootout with several HIGH END mics(I mean 5-6,000 dollars a PIECE, not for the pair..) and had the AT4050 in on the rotation. I was amazed at how many people that were in the listening tests and heard the tests afterwards prefered the 4050s over the "boutique" offerings... I also know of an AKG c33E stereo Mic (you can search that one on Archive too) for sale. less than what you have too, cost-wise. itll be a long path to determine what you like, but dont buy based on suggestins alone!

Teddy

Title: Re: Help with geting some new mics
Post by: dgodwin on June 26, 2006, 05:52:50 PM
I've been using a pair of AT 4050's recording the Jazz Band at my school.  I've been running them split about 20' apart.  I've been pretty happy with the results... I just wish I could run them a bit closer to the stage.  Other than for recording purposes, they were a waste of tax payer dollars though  ;D
Title: Re: Help with geting some new mics
Post by: J.T.L on June 26, 2006, 07:40:42 PM
...here is a loose comp for ya. Various sources from the same show of a nice sounding small venue...

Peluso CEMC-6/CK4(ortf/4'lob/8'high) > UA-5(BM2p+)
http://www.archive.org/details/Outformation2006-06-02.jtl.flac16

Schoeps MK4V > KC5 > CMC6
http://www.archive.org/details/outformation2006-06-02.mk4v.flac16

[Neumann ak50(DIN) > lc3 > km100] + [Neumann ak40(mid)+ak20(side) > lc3 > km100 > Lunatec V3(analog out)]
http://www.archive.org/details/outformation2006-06-02.neumann4mic.flac16
Title: Re: Help with geting some new mics
Post by: stirinthesauce on June 27, 2006, 09:21:51 AM


stirinthesauce I did get the phil and petty set and they were some nice sounding show. What tipe of show do you most tape with your mics. Most of the time I tape in the beacon theater, and other small clubs, ball rooms in nyc and nj. So did you use them indoors yet and if so how do you think they stand up. Did you post any of the indoor show if you taped any.



Glad you liked those B'roo shows  :)  90-95% of the taping I do is indoors.  It's just summertime and I'm trying to take advantage of outdoor taping ops  ;)  Love the mics indoors/outdoors, in all taping situations.

...here is a loose comp for ya. Various sources from the same show of a nice sounding small venue...

Peluso CEMC-6/CK4(ortf/4'lob/8'high) > UA-5(BM2p+)
http://www.archive.org/details/Outformation2006-06-02.jtl.flac16

Schoeps MK4V > KC5 > CMC6
http://www.archive.org/details/outformation2006-06-02.mk4v.flac16

[Neumann ak50(DIN) > lc3 > km100] + [Neumann ak40(mid)+ak20(side) > lc3 > km100 > Lunatec V3(analog out)]
http://www.archive.org/details/outformation2006-06-02.neumann4mic.flac16


Thanks for the comp, J.T.  :)


go to the archive and listen to a bunch of different mic sources. take the suggestions and use them as candidates for your listening, but by no means take any opinion here as gospel, including mine. ears are very different....


superb advice, Teddy, +t