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Gear / Technical Help => Microphones & Setup => Topic started by: Javier Cinakowski on July 06, 2006, 10:17:05 AM
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(http://img3.musiciansfriend.com/dbase/pics/products/4/2/4/396424.jpg)
Just picked one of these up at Musicians Freind. Seems like a great alternative to having shock mounts for both mics. Especially for those of us with mini mics, this is the only protection from wooks grabing onto the stand or kicking it on the way by.
Also if you want a shock-mount/isolation for your baffle head or j-disc, this is the answer. !!!
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So the outer shell has 5/8" 27 tpi femal mic stand threads (looking down) and there is a stud with 3/8" 16 tpi threads (looking up) that is suspended inside the outer shell?
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Thanks. Those look pretty sweet.
http://www.herculesstands.com/mics/HA612.html (http://www.herculesstands.com/mics/HA612.html)
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They make two models: 5/8"->3/8" and 5/8->5/8.
BTW, who uses 3/8"? Don't all microphone holders and stands use 5/8"?
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They make two models: 5/8"->3/8" and 5/8->5/8.
OK, I missed that. When I googled for the adapter, I hit on the 3/8" one. You're right that it makes more sense to stay 5/8" mic thread all the way.
Anyway, am I correct that the outer shell is connected to your stand and then there is a threaded stud suspended inside that outer shell?
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Anyway, am I correct that the outer shell is connected to your stand and then there is a threaded stud suspended inside that outer shell?
Yes, that is correct. It looks like the stud is suspended by rubberbands is the picture, but it is really little springs. Seems like a well built propduct.
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They make two models: 5/8"->3/8" and 5/8->5/8.
BTW, who uses 3/8"? Don't all microphone holders and stands use 5/8"?
Many stands terminate in 1/4" or 3/8", and require conversion to 5/8". They're typically made for camera/lighting work. Typical camera stuff is at 1/4"...
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looks excellent.
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here are some actual pictures
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I've been thinking of grabbing one of these for my LSD2.....looks like it would work well....
Peace,
jk
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The mounting stud is firmly in place becasue of that pieice of foammy stuff that is around it. It is like those things you get in CDr spindles. The stud is able to move a good bit though if you move it manually. It seems like it would be very effective, esspecially for the price. The springs work well
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nice. can you give us dimensions of this, i.e. how long and wide?
thanks +
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I had a little extra pay pal when I saw this post. I ordered one right away. $6 shipping? Give me a break. It came fast enough but it was just in a plastic bag with no padding. No big deal. I think I might have prefered small rubber bands to these springs. Someone asked how stiff it is. I haven't put mics on to tap test it yet but I'm not getting my hopes up too much. It just seems a bit rigid for a shock mount.
It is 3.5" tall (3/4" is top stud) it's about 1.5" wide and about 5.5" in circumference.
It's seems pretty good for $25. I would be a little bent if I paid $40+ for it.
When I get the inititive I'll set up two mics one on, one off and do a tap and drag test. Educated guess tells me that you will still get a bit of rumble if you were to say drag the stand on the stage. I hope to be proven wrong.
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Happy to report it actually seems to work pretty well. I put a t-bar on one stand. 2 KM184> V3 into DP4. I had the gain equal. First I smacked the stand with a sharpie marker. The side with the shock mount had significally less sound picked up. I then sort of wrenched my hands on the stand to make a low rumble vibration. This test was less impressive than the "ping" test but there was no doubt that less low end rumble came through on playback for the shouck mounted mic. I literally looped the selection and felt my monitors diaphram. The un ISO'ed mic definitly had a lot of low end rumbling on it. As I expected from the rigidness in my last post the mic that was shock mounted did not completely ignore the low end interference. So I guess it is well worth using and a pretty good value. I do sort of think that the more traditional bungee suspension is more effective.
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This thing sort of sucks for our applications. I am not getting the isolation you would desire and a spring already disappeared on mine. I have only used a half dozen times or so. Maybe it would be better without using 2 mics on it. I only used KM184's though. Definitly regret the purchase now that is is pretty much unusable. Oh well... Live and learn. ::)
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I picked up a pair a couple of months ago, but haven't used them live.
Using 2 on a Tbar, one for each mic, I found it hard to get an exact angle (eg, 110deg ORTF) since there's a bit of play on top.
Eg, get the mics to the desired angle, but on release they'd move. Not good.
I then tried putting a single mount on the top of my light stand, then attached a Tbar w/ 2 mics (also KM184s) to it. Too much weight for the mount to handle. I noticed a LOT of wobble.
fwiw
/Ken
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This would be a great solution for smaller setups but I can't see putting an A27 and Two Full 480's on that without it ending up fully leaning on one side.
Nice find though! Thanks for the testing.
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neumann makes something like this as well and its $60.
nice find!
i'm gunna get me one.
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neumann makes something like this as well and its $60.
nice find!
i'm gunna get me one.
Better read this thread before you do, Nick. Sounds like these mounts aren't at all what they promise...
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what, read?
bah!
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these things are dirt cheap, don't expect then to work like a $100 shock mount. they work great for small, light mics. I have used them with vocal mics too and it works fine. 8)