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Title: Audio Technica accessories (AT853 & AT943)
Post by: Chill on July 24, 2006, 10:17:26 PM
What are some of the accessories for these mics for.

elements

Omnidirectional - 360 degrees (good for small outdoor venues)
Cardioid - Looks like this (http://sylvester.math.nthu.edu.tw/d2/appreciation/cardioid(graph).jpg)
Sub Cardioid - What do these do?
Hyper Cardioid - for distance recordings??
Mini-Shotgun - What do these do?

Title: Re: Audio Technica accessories (AT853 & AT943)
Post by: audBall on July 25, 2006, 11:35:22 AM
What are some of the accessories for these mics for.

elements

Omnidirectional - 360 degrees (good for small outdoor venues)
Cardioid - Looks like this (http://sylvester.math.nthu.edu.tw/d2/appreciation/cardioid(graph).jpg)
Sub Cardioid - What do these do?
Hyper Cardioid - for distance recordings??
Mini-Shotgun - What do these do?




For simplicity's sake, let's consider a diagram from zero to one.  'Zero' being fully closed(not really, but let's just say), and 'One' being fully open(or 360 degrees).
That various pickup patterns you mentioned provide pickup in various degrees and are affected, acoustically, in doing so.

Generally speaking, the pickup patterns go in this order from the smallest degree of pickup to the most(or 360 degrees)

 0 ----------------------------------------------------------------  1

Shotgun    -  Hypercardioid   -  Cardioid  -  SubCardioid  - Omni



The closer you are to the sound source, the better it is to use a wider, more open pickup pattern.  The farther you go (again, generally speaking), you'll want a pickup pattern that is more focused on a tighter angle (i.e. hypers, shotguns).


There's MUCH more to it than that, and each type of polar pattern has it's own properties.  Many people like/dislike certain ones.  The more degree of an angle you have to pickup noise (One), the more ambient sound will end up on your recording.  With more direction, and a focused angle (Zero), you can position the microphone where and how you want it to pickup what best to your ears.


From there, adjust to taste...
Title: Re: Audio Technica accessories (AT853 & AT943)
Post by: bluelawn on July 25, 2006, 12:17:18 PM
also don't forget the more directional the more prone to wind noise-
so hypers on a windy day won't do as well as omni or subcards
Title: Re: Audio Technica accessories (AT853 & AT943)
Post by: Chill on July 25, 2006, 09:17:29 PM
Thanks, I am surprised that more people dont use subcards
Title: Re: Audio Technica accessories (AT853 & AT943)
Post by: poorlyconditioned on July 25, 2006, 09:33:22 PM
Thanks, I am surprised that more people dont use subcards

I use subcards.  I like them upfront in a small nice-sounding room...

  Richard
Title: Re: Audio Technica accessories (AT853 & AT943)
Post by: Chill on July 25, 2006, 11:55:04 PM
Do all Hyper cardioids pick up sound behind them?

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0a/Hypercardioidpattern.svg/600px-Hypercardioidpattern.svg.png)

I am not sure if I am digging the shotgun, if this is how it looks.

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2a/Shotgunpattern.svg/600px-Shotgunpattern.svg.png)

More info http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Condenser_microphone#Directionality
Title: Re: Audio Technica accessories (AT853 & AT943)
Post by: audBall on July 26, 2006, 10:39:32 AM
Those pictures are very generalized.  I wouldn't make an ultimate decision based upon what you read/see from spec sheets.  Yes, the hypers have a slight bubble in the rear and have a tendency to pickup noise from behind...but nowhere near that of an omni.  Let your ears, not your eyes, decide for you.