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Title: stealthing with the akg 391
Post by: panther65 on September 23, 2006, 07:37:04 AM: I'm thinking of upgrading my mics from sp cmc-8s to the akg blue line series with the active cable for low profile taping. Can the ck91,92,93 capsules be mounted in a hat somehow?
Title: Re: stealthing with the akg 391
Post by: musicsherlock on September 23, 2006, 07:55:14 AM: they fit nicely in a Kangol...they are a bit heavier than I like so order a hat one size smaller than you need...
Title: Re: stealthing with the akg 391
Post by: willndmb on September 23, 2006, 10:58:01 AM: you need to make the homebrew actives of buy the akg actives
the akg actives most people seem to think are problemantic (at least the few people i talked to about them)
Title: Re: stealthing with the akg 391
Post by: panther65 on September 23, 2006, 03:54:23 PM: Thanks guys for the advice. Would the problems that people are talking about with the 391/MK90/3H98(active cables) setup be avoided with the proper stress relief that sanjay has suggested? ie gaffer tape at the terminations.
Title: Re: stealthing with the akg 391
Post by: jlykos on September 23, 2006, 04:05:57 PM: The capsules are small so they would theoritically be easy to stealth, but the AKG active cables for this line are so expensive that it is not really worth the money investing in this setup if you just want to stealth. You would be better served by getting dpa 4060 or 4061 mics and stealthing with those. The dpa sound better, are smaller, and would probably cost about the same amount as ck9x + AKG actives.
Title: Re: stealthing with the akg 391
Post by: panther65 on September 23, 2006, 04:13:40 PM: Thanks Jlykos. Your advice is welcome indeed. I have the Tascam HD-P2 which accepts XLR phantom power. How would you suggest I power these mics?
Title: Re: stealthing with the akg 391
Post by: musicsherlock on September 23, 2006, 04:26:19 PM: I've been using these c 577 WR omni's to keep with that AKG sound, these accept phantom power: http://www.akg.com/products/powerslave,mynodeid,15,id,283,pid,283,_language,EN.html (http://www.akg.com/products/powerslave,mynodeid,15,id,283,pid,283,_language,EN.html)

(http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:xISa_4osUEiHHM:http://www.dv247.com/assets/products/27795_l.jpg)
Title: Re: stealthing with the akg 391
Post by: F.O.Bean on September 23, 2006, 06:57:49 PM: also, what about the ck31/32/33's ???

these are small capsules w/ out a body, or do they have a body connected like your normal actives ??? still a VERY small solution
Title: Re: stealthing with the akg 391
Post by: panther65 on September 23, 2006, 08:03:49 PM: From what I've read, these capsules require the lm3 cable which I think is discontinued. Would the JK Labs box be a solution to interface with any/all of the AKG capsules?
Title: Re: stealthing with the akg 391
Post by: musicsherlock on September 23, 2006, 08:32:00 PM: Quote from: Bean on September 23, 2006, 06:57:49 PM
also, what about the ck31/32/33's ???

these are small capsules w/ out a body, or do they have a body connected like your normal actives ??? still a VERY small solution
these use the HM 1000 cable...I am not thrilled with the specs. on those caps...maybe the ck33 would suit our needs...I'm going for the ck 47's (not for stealthing)...

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CK 33

Polar pattern    hypercardioid
Pickup angle    95°
Frequency range    50 to 20,000 Hz
Sensitivity    20 mV/Pa (–34 dBV) re 1 V/Pa
Max. SPL    125 dB (for 1 % THD)
Equivalent noise level    21 dB-A
Signal/noise ratio (A-weighted)    73 dB
Impedance    <=600 ohms
Recommended load impedance    >=2,000 ohms
Supply voltage    9 to 52 V phantom power, requires DPA adapter (supplied with most Installation Modules)
Current consumption    <3 mA
Connector    Discreet Acoustics Modular standard
Finish    matte dark grey
Dimensions    13.5 dia. x 20 length mm (0.5 dia. x 0.8 length in.)
Net weight    5 g (0.17 oz.)
Shipping weight    88 g (3.1 oz.)