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Title: [Comp] ACM 671 vs. ACM HD-P2
Post by: spreadheadtom on October 30, 2006, 11:43:20 PM: Widespread Panic
Municipal Auditorium
Nashville, TN
10-06-2006
song: Pilgrims (cut short for comp)

This is a comparison of the Marantz Oade ACM-671 and the Tascam Oade ACM HD-P2.

Both files were recorded in 24/48 using AKG c414b xls/ST (cards) on the same 8' stand ~20' ROC.

Can you tell which is which?

671-P2_comp_track01.flac:a72ff6e470aa223fb15dd9ee8d830a58
671-P2_comp_track02.flac:59e9651c3f6830018dae52f728ce7d08

http://digitalpanic.org/bittorrent/showthread.php?p=109091#post109091
Title: Re: [Comp] ACM 671 vs. ACM HD-P2
Post by: macdaddy on October 30, 2006, 11:45:39 PM: cool.

were you using splitter cables and/or a converter box..?
Title: Re: [Comp] ACM 671 vs. ACM HD-P2
Post by: spreadheadtom on October 30, 2006, 11:47:47 PM: Quote from: macdaddy on October 30, 2006, 11:45:39 PM
cool.

were you using splitter cables and/or a converter box..?

2 different sets of mics, each set run into it's own recording device
Title: Re: [Comp] ACM 671 vs. ACM HD-P2
Post by: tfs8271 on October 31, 2006, 12:27:27 AM: Ok...the first is the HD-P2 and the second is the 671. Got a 50/50 shot. 8)

Both sound good.
Title: Re: [Comp] ACM 671 vs. ACM HD-P2
Post by: J.T.L on October 31, 2006, 12:34:04 AM: To my ears track 2 seems to have just a little more detail than track 1 on the other hand track 1 seems to have a little fuller of a bottom end.

EDIT:...to echo that both do sound good.
Title: Re: [Comp] ACM 671 vs. ACM HD-P2
Post by: tfs8271 on October 31, 2006, 12:35:40 AM: Quote from: J.T.L on October 31, 2006, 12:34:04 AM
To my ears track 2 seems to have just a little more detail than track 1 on the other hand track 1 seems to have a little fuller of a bottom end.

Ok I switch my answer then. :P
Title: Re: [Comp] ACM 671 vs. ACM HD-P2
Post by: orechall on October 31, 2006, 12:39:54 AM: this should be interesting to see what everyone thinks
Title: Re: [Comp] ACM 671 vs. ACM HD-P2
Post by: spyder9 on October 31, 2006, 01:45:06 AM: 1. Tascam
2. Marantz

I own a P2 and had owned a 660. The 660 had a big-ass, so I bet big brother 671 has one too.
Title: Re: [Comp] ACM 671 vs. ACM HD-P2
Post by: todd e on October 31, 2006, 10:53:48 AM: Quote from: spyder9 on October 31, 2006, 01:45:06 AM
1. Tascam
2. Marantz

I own a P2 and had owned a 660. The 660 had a big-ass, so I bet big brother 671 has one too.

i haven't ever heard the ACM hd-p2, or the ACM 671.
but after listening to both, i'm going to guess that the first is the P2 and the 2nd if the 671.
Title: Re: [Comp] ACM 671 vs. ACM HD-P2
Post by: sygdwm on October 31, 2006, 10:54:46 AM: Quote from: J.T.L on October 31, 2006, 12:34:04 AM
To my ears track 2 seems to have just a little more detail than track 1 on the other hand track 1 seems to have a little fuller of a bottom end.

EDIT:...to echo that both do sound good.

i agree w/ this assessment. also, to be fair, i resampled/dithered track 1, since t1 was 24/48 and t2 was 16.44.1

1. hp2
2. 671
Title: Re: [Comp] ACM 671 vs. ACM HD-P2
Post by: spreadheadtom on October 31, 2006, 06:41:52 PM: been several downloads and only a few guesses.

PM me if you want the answer.
Title: Re: [Comp] ACM 671 vs. ACM HD-P2
Post by: spreadheadtom on October 31, 2006, 09:38:49 PM: full version

http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=74604.0
Title: Re: [Comp] ACM 671 vs. ACM HD-P2
Post by: macdaddy on October 31, 2006, 11:11:37 PM: 1. p2
2. 671
Title: Re: [Comp] ACM 671 vs. ACM HD-P2
Post by: silentmark on March 28, 2007, 12:33:34 PM: answer ?
Title: Re: [Comp] ACM 671 vs. ACM HD-P2
Post by: sygdwm on March 28, 2007, 03:23:59 PM: Quote from: silentmark on March 28, 2007, 12:33:34 PM
answer ?

Quote from: macdaddy on October 31, 2006, 11:11:37 PM
1. p2
2. 671
Title: Re: [Comp] ACM 671 vs. ACM HD-P2
Post by: sygdwm on March 28, 2007, 03:32:14 PM: pm spreadheadtom. he may still have it. i deleted mine light years ago. btw, the 671 smoked it.
Title: Re: [Comp] ACM 671 vs. ACM HD-P2
Post by: silentmark on March 28, 2007, 03:35:27 PM: Quote from: dre on March 28, 2007, 03:23:59 PM
Quote from: silentmark on March 28, 2007, 12:33:34 PM
answer ?

Quote from: macdaddy on October 31, 2006, 11:11:37 PM
1. p2
2. 671

official answer from spreadheadtom ?

8)
Title: Re: [Comp] ACM 671 vs. ACM HD-P2
Post by: kgreener on March 28, 2007, 03:49:25 PM: Mark, I just checked my PM's and spreadheadtom did tell me source 1 was in fact the HD-P2.

IMO this comp was incredibly close and it was hard to tell the difference (again, my opinion!)
Title: Re: [Comp] ACM 671 vs. ACM HD-P2
Post by: spreadheadtom on March 28, 2007, 04:05:04 PM: sorry guys...just saw this. I do not have a copy of the comp anymore.
Title: Re: [Comp] ACM 671 vs. ACM HD-P2
Post by: silentmark on March 28, 2007, 04:06:16 PM: thanks keith !
Title: Re: [Comp] ACM 671 vs. ACM HD-P2
Post by: sygdwm on March 28, 2007, 04:10:51 PM: Quote from: spreadheadtom on March 28, 2007, 04:05:04 PM
sorry guys...just saw this. I do not have a copy of the comp anymore.

damn. i may have it on disc somewhere at home. i will look around.
Title: Re: [Comp] ACM 671 vs. ACM HD-P2
Post by: spreadheadtom on March 28, 2007, 04:19:25 PM: Quote from: dre on March 28, 2007, 04:10:51 PM
Quote from: spreadheadtom on March 28, 2007, 04:05:04 PM
sorry guys...just saw this. I do not have a copy of the comp anymore.

damn. i may have it on disc somewhere at home. i will look around.

shouldn't be hard to do again....It was mine and Chris' (orechall) sources
Title: Re: [Comp] ACM 671 vs. ACM HD-P2
Post by: sygdwm on March 28, 2007, 04:22:40 PM: Quote from: spreadheadtom on March 28, 2007, 04:19:25 PM
Quote from: dre on March 28, 2007, 04:10:51 PM
Quote from: spreadheadtom on March 28, 2007, 04:05:04 PM
sorry guys...just saw this. I do not have a copy of the comp anymore.

damn. i may have it on disc somewhere at home. i will look around.

shouldn't be hard to do again....It was mine and Chris' (orechall) sources

you guys dont have identical rigs now though. i can, however, come up w/ 2 sets of 463's. OB?
Title: Re: [Comp] ACM 671 vs. ACM HD-P2
Post by: spreadheadtom on March 28, 2007, 04:33:52 PM: Quote from: dre on March 28, 2007, 04:22:40 PM

you guys dont have identical rigs now though.

no....but we do still have the same recordings ::)

(stay away from Michael....he's starting to rub off on you.)
Title: Re: [Comp] ACM 671 vs. ACM HD-P2
Post by: kgreener on March 28, 2007, 04:44:32 PM: guys, i just upgraded my box.net account and uploaded these files...have at 'em:

http://www.box.net/shared/2pfnv25b8j

let me know if you have any problems

Keith
Title: Re: [Comp] ACM 671 vs. ACM HD-P2
Post by: spreadheadtom on March 28, 2007, 05:03:32 PM: Quote from: kgreener on March 28, 2007, 04:44:32 PM
guys, i just upgraded my box.net account and uploaded these files...have at 'em:

http://www.box.net/shared/2pfnv25b8j

let me know if you have any problems

Keith

thanks!!! +T

Tommy
Title: Re: [Comp] ACM 671 vs. ACM HD-P2
Post by: kgreener on March 28, 2007, 05:26:36 PM: Quote from: spreadheadtom on March 28, 2007, 05:03:32 PM
Quote from: kgreener on March 28, 2007, 04:44:32 PM
guys, i just upgraded my box.net account and uploaded these files...have at 'em:

http://www.box.net/shared/2pfnv25b8j

let me know if you have any problems

Keith

thanks!!! +T

Tommy
No problem...back atcha!