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Gear / Technical Help => Recording Gear => Topic started by: Chomps on November 13, 2006, 08:27:15 AM
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Got the h120 from a trade from a memeber here.
Since I got it I have had nothing but trouble.
Used it to tape a show the 1st day I got it. Went the whole show with no problems. Went to save it at the end and it froze up.
I let it run out of power(should have just reset the unit). Recording was not present the next morning(I ran another recorder infront)
So i played around with it and it kept freezing up. I updated the firmware and the freezing problem stopped.
BUT NOW i keep getting a disc full error. I did the scan disc and it seemed to be working.
So I did more recording tests and got as far as an hr. I thought all was good. Hit stop and it froze again.
Is there anything else I can do?
Does anyone think the Hard Drive is bad?
I really want to fix damn thing so I can run two recorders!!!!
Any help would be awesome.
Keith
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it does sound like the symptoms others have reported while having a bad HD in their units. But I have no clue as to what it could really be.
I'm not sure why but mine freezes every now and again too, altho not very often and mostly when I'm playing flac files on it. (glad I never dumped my jb3 ;))
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Chomps:
The 'disk space is full' is a well discussed error caused by deleting files off of the iRiver through windows (or whatever OS) when connected to a PC via usb 2.0. The unit does not realize that you deleted them, and reports the space as taken up. Delete files from the iRiver unit itself and you will not have this problem again. There is a way to go into the iRiver menu and make it re-scan the space available on the hdd. That will fix the problem. Not sure exactly how to do the re-scan because I only delete files via the iRiver since I've known about this problem. Do a search and you'll find discussions about how to do it.
I've only had the iRiver freeze up when playing (actually fast forwarding / rewinding) large FLAC files. Reset has always cleared up the freeze and I never lost any files. I'm not convinced that the problems you are having are hdd related. I would reformat the hdd (via the iRiver firmware) and run a chkdsk r/ function with Windows if it were mine. I'm thinking your problems may be over if you do that and only delete files via iRiver from now on. Good luck!
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Chomps:
I would reformat the hdd (via the iRiver firmware) and run a chkdsk r/ function with Windows if it were mine. I'm thinking your problems may be over if you do that and only delete files via iRiver from now on. Good luck!
where do I find out how to do this?
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Chomps:
I would reformat the hdd (via the iRiver firmware) and run a chkdsk r/ function with Windows if it were mine. I'm thinking your problems may be over if you do that and only delete files via iRiver from now on. Good luck!
where do I find out how to do this?
Backup any data on the hdd that you don't want to be lost. Boot up to the iRiver firmware. Hold the joystick down until the menu comes up. Click on 'general'. Scroll to format. Click on 'yes' or whatever and let it do it's thing. Then hook it up to your PC and go to command prompt. Type in chkdsk e: r/ and let it do it's thing. (NOTE: If your PC recognizes it as a drive different from 'e', then type in that letter in place of 'e:'; you can just run chkdsk, but using the r/ will repair bad sectors if there are any.)
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Chomps:
I would reformat the hdd (via the iRiver firmware) and run a chkdsk r/ function with Windows if it were mine. I'm thinking your problems may be over if you do that and only delete files via iRiver from now on. Good luck!
where do I find out how to do this?
I have nothing on the drive right now so there is nothing to lose.
I am going to lose my mind if this does not work
thanks for all your help!!
Keith
Backup any data on the hdd that you don't want to be lost. Boot up to the iRiver firmware. Hold the joystick down until the menu comes up. Click on 'general'. Scroll to format. Click on 'yes' or whatever and let it do it's thing. Then hook it up to your PC and go to command prompt. Type in chkdsk e: r/ and let it do it's thing. (NOTE: If your PC recognizes it as a drive different from 'e', then type in that letter in place of 'e:'; you can just run chkdsk, but using the r/ will repair bad sectors if there are any.)
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Chomps:
I would reformat the hdd (via the iRiver firmware) and run a chkdsk r/ function with Windows if it were mine. I'm thinking your problems may be over if you do that and only delete files via iRiver from now on. Good luck!
where do I find out how to do this?
Backup any data on the hdd that you don't want to be lost. Boot up to the iRiver firmware. Hold the joystick down until the menu comes up. Click on 'general'. Scroll to format. Click on 'yes' or whatever and let it do it's thing. Then hook it up to your PC and go to command prompt. Type in chkdsk e: r/ and let it do it's thing. (NOTE: If your PC recognizes it as a drive different from 'e', then type in that letter in place of 'e:'; you can just run chkdsk, but using the r/ will repair bad sectors if there are any.)
Also note that the chkdsk /r operation can take well over 12 hours to complete.
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Assuming you're running RockBox...
- To make RB rescan the disk to figure out free space: menu -> info -> rockbox info hit play or navi and you should see a scanning message.
- Don't use the voice option in RB as that is still a source of some stability issues. To make sure, clear settings by holding REC while booting (but after pressing ON)
- During playback of long big files, don't try to stop it when it is still starting to load a file (known bug there)
- RB always writes to disk when recording so there's no 'save' to be done, just 'stop' to write the header. If it failed to do that, open the saved file as raw data and set the samplerate yourself.
- latest RB version adds improved recording framework and better abort on low battery (still have to check how that behaves while recording)
If you're having CRC errors, it could be that the connection with the disk daughter board has broken solderings. Or the disk may be bad.
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Also note that the chkdsk /r operation can take well over 12 hours to complete.
will the % complete change as it goes or will that update at the end?
I have had it going for about an hr now and it is still at 0%?
keith
edit: just went up to 5%
After this is done I assume I have to redo the firmware and new Roxbox?
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Also note that the chkdsk /r operation can take well over 12 hours to complete.
will the % complete change as it goes or will that update at the end?
I have had it going for about an hr now and it is still at 0%?
keith
edit: just went up to 5%
After this is done I assume I have to redo the firmware and new Roxbox?
Nope, it shouldn't format anything.... but formatting is probably a good idea. Your firmware doesn't need to be changed though.
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woke up this morning and the process was still not done. was at 55%
much longer than 12 like someone said befoe
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woke up this morning and the process was still not done. was at 55%
much longer than 12 like someone said befoe
You would have been better off formatting. :) live and learn grasshopper.
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funny thing is I think i did format the drive before I started this process.
I HAVE NO CLUE what is going on now..I just want the damn thing to work
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funny thing is I think i did format the drive before I started this process.
I HAVE NO CLUE what is going on now..I just want the damn thing to work
If you followed my advice, then yes, you did format before running chkdsk. It's taking a REALLY long time, hugh. If you give up on the process, just try running a basic chkdsk (no 'r/') and see if it goes by quicker and reports any errors repaired. You will have to re-rockbox after every re-format of the hdd.
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I did not give up on the process. I have done everything you told me to do.
I left it running when I went to work since it was at 55%
I really hope it is done by the time I get home!
Keith
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nothing works...something is wrong. I feel like I was ripped off :(
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nothing works...something is wrong. I feel like I was ripped off :(
Do a manual reset (paperclip in the hole on the bottom of the unit). Once when I let mine stay on the chkdsk function for a long time like you did I had to reset and then all was fine. I assume that the chkdsk r/ scan got hung up and didn't complete, hugh? Try running a simple chkdsk (no 'r/') and see if it will complete. If so (or if not), just re-rockbox and see what happens. Since you were able to re-format the drive before you ran chkdsk you may get lucky and not experience the same problems again. If you keep having problems it is likely hdd issues. Keep us posted.
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Well, lets review.
First, you are as happy as can be:
GOOD TRADES/SALES THREAD Pt. III
VERY SMOOTH transacion with "larry sellers".
We traded a mic for a recorder and each receiver the items a day apart
+t to Larry Sellers
Then, you comment on the recorder locking up and someone almost spilling a drink on it.
Karl Denson Trio taping policy?
....well, I'll let Chomps describe the gruesome details, but that was the most labor intensive taping experience. Let's re-visit the stun gun/mic stand thread b/c it's a valid idea.
+t for Chomps. A blocker in the hall of fame.
fucking christ I am still pissed off as can be. Not only were the people there drunk they had no clue what a taping rig looked line.
: falling overthis girl goes to put her glass down. where does she go to put it down IN MY BAG. thank god i moved fast of the jb3 and iriver would have been gone. then she has the never to tell me she was going to have me shut down for taping. " what are you going to do sell it and make a ton of money" just looked her staight in the eye and said "listen, the reason you have all the free music you love and hear about all these great bands is from people like me. turn around and enjoy the show and thank us for a great sounding tape after your downoad it FOR FREE"
then after that happened a whale moved into our little area we has set up. grinding on some tool she decideds it a good idea to throw her arms around the mics. then the tool she is dancing with has a moment and forgets how to stand up grabbing my right mic.
all night i was thinking how bad the tape was going to come out. well it did not clip till the tool grabbed my mic..mother fucker...now I need to work on that.
tied out the iRiver last night. was loving it till it FROZE when i stopped the recording. I decided to let the battery run out. well this morning error on the file and that file was lost. thank god i ran 2 recorders..
WHAT A NIGHT
Now, you state that you feel ripped off.
H120 likes to freeze up and says dics space is full...NEED HELP!!!
nothing works...something is wrong. I feel like I was ripped off :(
And then I get a PM saying that I ripped you off. If you have a problem with me, I suggest you keep it out of the public forums. I can't control what happens once it leaves my door, which is why I selected confirmed delivery and had the package insured (your reasoning in the PM for why you feel I knowingly ripped you off). I did 3 - 4hr recording tests with that unit before I sent it out and it worked fine for me every time. I even kept it an extra day to do the tests b/c I used it as an mp3/flac player. I was happy to help you work out whatever issues you were having but now you have pretty much dragged my good name through the mud. I'll send the original insurance forms, so you and the post office can work it out b/c I am done helping you...asshole.
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I am done helping you...asshole.
LOL :lol: :smash: