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Title: FLAC Standards
Post by: blu666z on October 10, 2003, 12:54:06 AM

Should you include a text file with the FLAC fingerprints on FLAC discs?

-Kevin

Title: Re:FLAC Standards
Post by: gonads on October 10, 2003, 01:02:00 AM

yes

just add it at the bottom of the text file

Title: Re:FLAC Standards
Post by: Cooker on October 10, 2003, 09:13:58 AM

do both. put it in the text file but also include a file with just the fingerprint, named  bandXXXX-XX-XX-FFP.txt


in the case of uploading the fingerprint to etree, it needs to be a separate file.
 

Title: Re:FLAC Standards
Post by: Sean Gallemore on October 10, 2003, 09:41:23 PM

may I ask why the FP are necessary?

Title: Re:FLAC Standards
Post by: Joe w. on October 10, 2003, 10:49:06 PM

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may I ask why the FP are necessary?

it is the signature that allows you to verify your fileset.

Title: Re:FLAC Standards
Post by: cpclark on October 10, 2003, 11:51:52 PM

the fingerprint acts just like an md5, but the only difference is you can run a seperate check of the fingerprint

Title: Re:FLAC Standards
Post by: Sean Gallemore on October 11, 2003, 12:25:57 AM

ahh, so I should be doing this check shouldn't I?

oh well, I'm lsitening to the whole thing anyway to make sure it's ok

and I'm just d/l for myself

Title: Re:FLAC Standards
Post by: Simp-Dawg on October 11, 2003, 02:14:21 AM

actually i think the written fingerprint may be totally unnecessary.  i remember reading that the fingerprint was actually biult into the files, but you could create a text printout for the anal retentive.
maybe i am mistaken though....

Title: Re:FLAC Standards
Post by: Sean Gallemore on October 11, 2003, 05:56:04 AM

i think yer right simp, I mean, if the flac is fucked anyway, it won't decode

Title: Re:FLAC Standards
Post by: DaryanLenz on October 11, 2003, 02:26:45 PM

Yeah, the ffp file is useless.  Why those etree ho's want them is beyond me.  I generally do not bother making them., as they are just another step in the long frustrating process of transferring.

Daryan

Title: Re:FLAC Standards
Post by: Sean Gallemore on October 11, 2003, 03:05:11 PM

right on D

Title: Re:FLAC Standards
Post by: MattD on October 11, 2003, 03:44:09 PM

They're useful in checking to see if two sources are the same, but other than that, not much. I'd have thought that the test function would create an internal fingerprint and compare it to the one in the folder, but it actually runs an internal test (that takes much longer).

-Matt

Title: Re:FLAC Standards
Post by: Joe w. on October 12, 2003, 03:49:50 PM

actually, the written fingerprint is very useful if you want to match a source that you plan on downloading. you can match the written file against the one in the database to confirm a match before downloading. if the sources are claiming to be the same, yet the ffp doesn't match, you know you have a undesireable fileset, with eac, errors or whatever.

Title: Re:FLAC Standards
Post by: Cooker on October 13, 2003, 09:27:51 AM

another reason for the ffp or for pasting the fp in the text file is a very simple one - when uploading files to a server - there is no way for the siteop to verify that all the files are correct.
if you only upload 2 out of 10 files, and he runs a test on them, if those two files are complete, they will verify just fine. the siteop will have no clue that files are missing. this is not like shn, where they will get an error if the files are missing or incomplete.