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Gear / Technical Help => Microphones & Setup => Topic started by: Chuck on January 23, 2007, 08:02:03 PM
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I have been thinking for a while about getting an inexpensive LD mic that has a figure-eight pattern option to do some M/S recordings with my V3. There are tons of low cost, good sounding options out there as far as the LD. What I wonder is, will it work or sound good if I use a C-481 as the Mid microphone? Specifically, the LD as figure-eight and the, SD C-481, cardioid facing forward?
The idea of making a recording, then determining the width of the soundstage in post production appeals to me.
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i think it would definantly sound good with a 480 as the mid. thow a ADK TL in there and it would be pretty nice. ive seen singles go unsold for <300 lately on ebay
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i think it would definantly sound good with a 480 as the mid. thow a ADK TL in there and it would be pretty nice. ive seen singles go unsold for <300 lately on ebay
Yeah, Dustin, this is what I have been thinking too. There are lots of manufacturers making variable pattern LD microphones now.
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Go for an AT-4050. They are sweet sounding mics, and can do cardioid, omni, or fig 8.
M/S is fun stuff. I've used a 4050 and a km184 to do it a few times and the results have been awesome.
;D
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Once you go M/S.... There is NO looking back.
the 20 cap by far the best purchase i've made. not to mention a KILLER deal on it from ebay. ;D
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very true, when i had my TL's and a ran M/S a few times i was hooked
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Any thoughts on a transformer-out mid coupled with a transformerless side...or vice versa?
I tried this once (1k/414xls) and the results we ok, but the setting was far from ideal.
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Two great things about M/S are setting the soundstage in post, and the ability to mix two different microphones to create a blend of their qualities. I ran M/S onstage several times using an AK40 as the mid and a 394 as the side. I ended up with the smooth Neumann mids and highs, and a solid AKG bottom end. Nice! 8)
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CK 94, is that side address for the figure 8? That's a possiblity. Initially, I'd like to start off cheap for the figure eight microphone, to see if I really like it. That's why I was thinking LD, as they can be had for little money. I wonder if there is an inexpensive SD option?
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LSD2 !!!!!!!!!!!!
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LSD2 !!!!!!!!!!!!
Too much for me to swing right now.
I'm looking at the Apex 415...
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CK 94, is that side address for the figure 8? That's a possiblity. Initially, I'd like to start off cheap for the figure eight microphone, to see if I really like it. That's why I was thinking LD, as they can be had for little money. I wonder if there is an inexpensive SD option?
When I was looking, the ck94 was about the cheapest figure 8 capsule option among interchangeable SD mics. That was a couple years ago, so I don't know what new options may have surfaced since then.
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too much?
barely over $500 from FC.
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CK 94, is that side address for the figure 8? That's a possiblity. Initially, I'd like to start off cheap for the figure eight microphone, to see if I really like it. That's why I was thinking LD, as they can be had for little money. I wonder if there is an inexpensive SD option?
When I was looking, the ck94 was about the cheapest figure 8 capsule option among interchangeable SD mics. That was a couple years ago, so I don't know what new options may have surfaced since then.
So, is it side address? ...and does it sound good?
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too much?
barely over $500 from FC.
I wish I had $500 to play around with for this... I'm just looking to experiment now. If I like what I hear, I can raise the cash. I just want to check out the possibilites with M/S.
I haven't had the V3 for long and I know it can be set-up up for M/S recording.
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question on this
if i wanted to run 2 414's M/S
how would one go about setting it up and how would the mike need to be configured?!?
i usally run the 414s hyper towards the stacks in larger venues and xy card in smaller ones
peace
nate
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you'd make a T w/them if you go the horizontal route. one mic just straight on, the other above/below it pointing forward, but laying on its side w/the caps pointing out at you (from the side).
the vertical route is the way to go. top mic upside down, bottom mic normal and have them about 1/4" apart. twist them around as needed this way. XY, MS..etc. there are great pics in the archive.
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if i wanted to run 2 414's M/S
how would one go about setting it up and how would the mike need to be configured?!?
Like this Blumlein / XY setup, but rotate the top mic so the diaphragms are pointed straight at the sound source, and the bottom mic so it's diaphragms are perpendicular to the sound source:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v245/bskalinder/vert414_front.jpg)
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so mike 'A' is perp to the sound source in a fig 8 pattern
and mike 'B' faces source in a card pattern right
thanks guys
peace
nate
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So, is it side address? ...and does it sound good?
Yep, it's side address. It sounds pretty good. Right on par with the rest of the blue line caps.