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Title: Mini Me>hosa>jb3 oddity...
Post by: ellaguru on February 03, 2007, 03:33:46 PM
pardon my ignance here, but i need a little advice..

running nak550>silver clad>xlr>mini me>aes/ebu>hosa>opti>jb3 (wow...thats a signal chain!)

it seems the jb3 will only record @ 44.1, no matter if i set the mini me to 16/48 or 16/44.1.  so if i fly the signal in @ 48kHz, the resulting playback of 44.1 on the jb3 is pitch slow, while running 44.1 on the mini me keeps it at pitch on playback..ive been able to dump 48kHz DATs into the jb3 and it will record @48k...

im stumpted   >:(

ran nak550>cables>minime>usb>ibook and got 24/96, so the mini me is working right..

any advice?

chris
Title: Re: Mini Me>hosa>jb3 oddity...
Post by: Roving Sign on February 03, 2007, 03:47:13 PM
Changing the sample rate in the file header will probably fix the playback issue -

but - something must be up with the minime - the JB3 should have no trouble locking onto 48khz

Have your tried to get another device to lock on at 16/48??
Title: Re: Mini Me>hosa>jb3 oddity...
Post by: ellaguru on February 03, 2007, 03:51:38 PM
D8 locks @ 16/48


chris
Title: Re: Mini Me>hosa>jb3 oddity...
Post by: Roving Sign on February 03, 2007, 04:03:39 PM
Wierd!!!

I've used my JB3 with 4 different A/Ds - never a no lock...

Is your JB3 firmware up to date? I know some of the early versions were weak on recording features...

Grasping at straws here - the mini-me folks will have to chime in...
Title: Re: Mini Me>hosa>jb3 oddity...
Post by: ellaguru on February 03, 2007, 04:10:41 PM
Okay.... I'd say this is a jb3 issue.  And not just because I sold you that minime...

As RS said, you are recording at 48khz.  The jb3 is not properly identifying the stream. Tweaking the header should fix the playback.

Maybe the cable is flaky?  Did you ever get that jb3 upgraded to the latest firmware?


i need to do that firmware..i did d/l it but then what do i do?

cr
Title: Re: Mini Me>hosa>jb3 oddity...
Post by: Roving Sign on February 03, 2007, 04:12:18 PM
Check to see what version you are running now - I think any of the 1.2 versions are not up to snuff...

I think the 1.3 and 1.4 versions are ok...

I forget how to check - its in the JB3 FAQ - as are upgrade instructions...

Not sure if they are...
Title: Re: Mini Me>hosa>jb3 oddity...
Post by: ellaguru on February 04, 2007, 10:52:25 AM
jb3 already loaded with the current 1.40.06 version....now im really confused!


chris
Title: Re: Mini Me>hosa>jb3 oddity...
Post by: ellaguru on February 07, 2007, 11:19:14 AM
swapped out all the cables & still have the same issue   ???
Title: Re: Mini Me>hosa>jb3 oddity...
Post by: ellaguru on February 07, 2007, 11:37:15 AM
thanks for the tip, raoulduke...ill check it out here in a bit....running some analogs masters>ibook at 24/48 right now, so the mini me is a little busy   :D :D

im pretty sure the minime was on b/f the jb3 in all my tests

chris
Title: Re: Mini Me>hosa>jb3 oddity...
Post by: ellaguru on February 22, 2007, 04:39:43 PM
bumpsies....

i ran analog>mme>coax out>D5 passthrough @ 48 kHz & the jb3 locked right on @ 48....take the hosa out of the chain & i have no probs...
thoughts?

chris
Title: Re: Mini Me>hosa>jb3 oddity...
Post by: ellaguru on February 22, 2007, 05:19:39 PM
Is the original suspect opti cable still involved?



nope..got a good one now...no adapters or right angle thingys.....i shut it all down, but my next 'find the prob' eliminator will be running cass>mme>aes/ebu out> D5, which has the aes/ebu in....other than that, im out of options....i did grab a coax<>opti hosa out of the yard sale last week, & that'll be here anyday for me to test...
Title: Re: Mini Me>hosa>jb3 oddity...
Post by: Charlie Miller on February 23, 2007, 01:17:04 AM
My minime won't output to 48k at 16bit, but will at 24bit. This started about a year ago. I never got it fixed since I only do 24bit.
Title: Re: Mini Me>hosa>jb3 oddity...
Post by: Roving Sign on February 23, 2007, 07:25:42 AM
My minime won't output to 48k at 16bit, but will at 24bit. This started about a year ago. I never got it fixed since I only do 24bit.

Perhaps - but the JB3 should still lock, and truncate, the last 8 bits...plenty of guys running a backup JB3 this way...
Title: Re: Mini Me>hosa>jb3 oddity...
Post by: ellaguru on March 01, 2007, 08:35:23 AM
final result....
tried the mme coax>hosa odl276>opti out>jb3 & it locks on at 48k...so its either the hosa312 (doubtful) or the aes/ebu out on the mme....

chris
Title: Re: Mini Me>hosa>jb3 oddity...
Post by: rowjimmy on March 02, 2007, 02:03:42 PM
Sorry so late on this.
I'd suggest ditching the Hosa 312 in favor of a Hosa ODL-276a. Then use the mini-me s/pdif.

However, if must use AES/EBU (and I bet you want to due to it's physical robustness compare to the s/pdif on the mini-me) I'm not sure what to tell you.
Title: Re: Mini Me>hosa>jb3 oddity...
Post by: ellaguru on March 03, 2007, 04:20:04 PM
Sorry so late on this.
I'd suggest ditching the Hosa 312 in favor of a Hosa ODL-276a. Then use the mini-me s/pdif.



grabbed one out of the yard sale a couple weeks back...you read my mind!

pleased that my oade active 7pin cable will run both the d8 & the hosa>jb at the same time..

chris
Title: Re: Mini Me>hosa>jb3 oddity...
Post by: ellaguru on March 03, 2007, 04:21:23 PM
We did a bunch of testing on this yesterday... The problem was the hosa (AES to opti). It has worked fine in the past at 44 but apparently not 48k..

Not sure why it would not do 48k.. Whether it is a problem with the hosa or just a limitation of this model due to age, etc.


im going to try to run the hosa opti>aes/ebu to see if the signal passes in that direction @ 48k

chris
Title: Re: Mini Me>hosa>jb3 oddity...
Post by: rowjimmy on March 12, 2007, 01:54:36 PM
Any updates here?
Title: Re: Mini Me>hosa>jb3 oddity...
Post by: dointhatrag on March 12, 2007, 04:33:39 PM
"ran nak550>cables>minime>usb>ibook and got 24/96, so the mini me is working right"

Apogee says only 24/48 can come out of there USB interface.


Title: Re: Mini Me>hosa>jb3 oddity...
Post by: ellaguru on March 12, 2007, 04:51:30 PM
"ran nak550>cables>minime>usb>ibook and got 24/96, so the mini me is working right"

Apogee says only 24/48 can come out of there USB interface.




typo here  ::)