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Title: 24 BIT FLAC WILL NOT PLAY IN WINAMP?
Post by: THE NIZ BIAAAAACH! on February 12, 2007, 04:39:16 AM
SSIA, can't get winamp to output audio, it plays it says the correct sample rate, and time, but no sound.   Also the file plays fine when decoded?
Title: Re: 24 BIT FLAC WILL NOT PLAY IN WINAMP?
Post by: todd e on February 12, 2007, 09:15:46 AM
i would suggest getting a newer version of winamp, or try foobar (best idea, really!)
Title: Re: 24 BIT FLAC WILL NOT PLAY IN WINAMP?
Post by: bhtoque on February 13, 2007, 05:23:15 AM
It started doing that to me recently too. Never had the problem before, but now I get no sound from 24bit flacs. The wav's are fine, just the flacs do it.

Very strange.

JAson
Title: Re: 24 BIT FLAC WILL NOT PLAY IN WINAMP?
Post by: Teen Wolf Blitzer on February 13, 2007, 10:28:12 AM
Same here although I could never get flac24's to play right.  Although I got fuzzy static not no sound.  I moved to Foobar and have had no issues.
Title: Re: 24 BIT FLAC WILL NOT PLAY IN WINAMP?
Post by: jcrab66 on February 13, 2007, 11:46:14 AM
i have never had any trouble getting winamp to play 24 bit flacs
Title: Re: 24 BIT FLAC WILL NOT PLAY IN WINAMP?
Post by: THE NIZ BIAAAAACH! on February 13, 2007, 12:00:46 PM
I found the answer!
go into preferences, file types, allow true 24bit
Title: Re: 24 BIT FLAC WILL NOT PLAY IN WINAMP?
Post by: Teen Wolf Blitzer on February 13, 2007, 12:18:44 PM
Really?  Cool.  +t for the info.  Always wondered what the deal was.
Title: Re: 24 BIT FLAC WILL NOT PLAY IN WINAMP?
Post by: bhtoque on February 14, 2007, 01:47:31 AM
I found the answer!
go into preferences, file types, allow true 24bit

+T dude.

Thanks,

JAson
Title: Re: 24 BIT FLAC WILL NOT PLAY IN WINAMP?
Post by: Gordon on February 14, 2007, 02:39:18 AM
y'all should use foobar regardless
Title: Re: 24 BIT FLAC WILL NOT PLAY IN WINAMP?
Post by: georgeh on February 15, 2007, 03:39:32 PM
why use foobar? jsut curious for your reason gordon
Title: Re: 24 BIT FLAC WILL NOT PLAY IN WINAMP?
Post by: kcmoejoe on February 15, 2007, 04:04:13 PM
I've been a winamp fan since it came out years ago...guess its hard to change to something else, foobar looks kinda boring, does it have the cool visualizations or the fancy skins? 

I had trouble playing back 24/96 but I figured out that my soundcard is an old Dio 24/48 so that answered that question I had.  :P
Title: Re: 24 BIT FLAC WILL NOT PLAY IN WINAMP?
Post by: Simp-Dawg on March 21, 2007, 12:05:50 AM
another reason winamp (or other audio programs) may have trouble with 24-bit is if you've saved them from cd wave without selecting "use alternate 24bit format".  apparently cd wave editor writes 24bit files in a weird way by default and i've had problems playing them or compressing them with foobar and flac.
Title: Re: 24 BIT FLAC WILL NOT PLAY IN WINAMP?
Post by: Gordon on March 21, 2007, 02:28:24 AM
foobar looks kinda boring, does it have the cool visualizations or the fancy skins? 

that's why I love it!  nothing fancy!  just a great media player that uses WAY less resource and plays gapless without plugins.  oh and you can change the skins etc if you want.  I have no need for that.

oh and the live show tagger is enough reason to use foobar.
Title: Re: 24 BIT FLAC WILL NOT PLAY IN WINAMP?
Post by: pool on March 21, 2007, 08:14:41 AM
foobar looks kinda boring, does it have the cool visualizations or the fancy skins? 

that's why I love it!  nothing fancy!  just a great media player that uses WAY less resource and plays gapless without plugins.  oh and you can change the skins etc if you want.  I have no need for that.

oh and the live show tagger is enough reason to use foobar.

I second that esp the gapless playback and a myraid of plugins.
Title: Re: 24 BIT FLAC WILL NOT PLAY IN WINAMP?
Post by: JasonSobel on March 21, 2007, 09:31:14 AM
another reason winamp (or other audio programs) may have trouble with 24-bit is if you've saved them from cd wave without selecting "use alternate 24bit format".  apparently cd wave editor writes 24bit files in a weird way by default and i've had problems playing them or compressing them with foobar and flac.

just for clarification, the default 24-bit format that CD Wave writes to is a "new standard" defined by Microsoft.  the problem is, most programs haven't yet adopted the new "standard".  So, by selecting the "alternate 24-bit format" in CD Wave, it writes the files to the old standard that just about all programs can use.  However, the last two versions of FLAC (v1.1.3 released in Nov 2006 and v1.1.4 released in Feb '07) can handle either 24-bit WAV file format.  not to mention the greater compression ratios and the quicker compression times offered by the latest version of FLAC.  but all this is really a topic for another thread (and there have been threads about it).
Title: Re: 24 BIT FLAC WILL NOT PLAY IN WINAMP?
Post by: hawghunter on July 08, 2007, 06:40:04 PM
When playing a 24 bit FLAC in WinAmp the kbps meter reads only 1552. But when the WAV is played the meter reads 2304. Why would that be? I wonder if I encoded it wrong in FLAC. Any feed back? Thanks!
Title: Re: 24 BIT FLAC WILL NOT PLAY IN WINAMP?
Post by: boojum on July 08, 2007, 09:45:55 PM
foobar will convert to 24 bit FLAC from WAV files.  And for sure, foobar will be able t play it.   8)
Title: Re: 24 BIT FLAC WILL NOT PLAY IN WINAMP?
Post by: hawghunter on July 08, 2007, 11:31:46 PM
foobar will convert to 24 bit FLAC from WAV files.  And for sure, foobar will be able t play it.   8)

Yes, but the FLAC kbps is much lower compared to the wav file. So maybe I'm off topic but, that doesn't seem right. for the kbps to drop by a 1/3 because it's flac'd, or am I missing something here?
Title: Re: 24 BIT FLAC WILL NOT PLAY IN WINAMP?
Post by: F.O.Bean on July 09, 2007, 12:21:05 AM
that is weird. im pretty sure in fb2k, it shows the same kbps read on both wav and flac. i quit using winamp years ago because of the old gapless playback thing, and have loved fb2k for years now :)
Title: Re: 24 BIT FLAC WILL NOT PLAY IN WINAMP?
Post by: Brian Skalinder on July 09, 2007, 12:45:23 AM
Yes, but the FLAC kbps is much lower compared to the wav file. So maybe I'm off topic but, that doesn't seem right. for the kbps to drop by a 1/3 because it's flac'd, or am I missing something here?

Same here.  I think Foobar just calculates it based on the file sizes and header info.  On my system (Foobar v0.9.4.2), the kbps ratio of FLAC:WAV is the same as my file size ratio of FLAC:WAV.  I don't worry about it, at any rate.
Title: Re: 24 BIT FLAC WILL NOT PLAY IN WINAMP?
Post by: hawghunter on July 09, 2007, 11:11:01 AM
Yes, but the FLAC kbps is much lower compared to the wav file. So maybe I'm off topic but, that doesn't seem right. for the kbps to drop by a 1/3 because it's flac'd, or am I missing something here?

Same here.  I think Foobar just calculates it based on the file sizes and header info.  On my system, the kbps ratio of FLAC:WAV is the same as my file size ratio of FLAC:WAV.  I don't worry about it, at any rate.

Thanks Brian, that's makes sense. Maybe Bean can verify. +t.

that is weird. im pretty sure in fb2k, it shows the same kbps read on both wav and flac.

Bean, could you verify for me? just curious what you get, and make sure all is good. I want to torrent my 24 bit, 48kHz of Roger Waters from Summerfest 7/2/2007. Thanks, +t.

Edit: the more I think about it Brian is right, because I don't think I've ever seen my 16bit FLAC files anywhere near that # on the kbps meter. Thanks again.