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Title: R09 and ECM-717
Post by: MishFan on February 19, 2007, 01:29:28 PM
Hello,

I'm new to this forum, so I apologize, if this questions did already appear somewhere in this forum.

Would the edirol r-09 and the Sony ECM 717 microphone would work with the phantom power?

Thanks!
Title: Re: R09 and ECM-717
Post by: j.mart on February 19, 2007, 02:03:09 PM
welcome to the board

i don't think the ECM-717/719 could handle phantom power. not even sure if they can have a regular 9V battery box. am i wrong?
Title: Re: R09 and ECM-717
Post by: Dede2002 on February 19, 2007, 04:55:06 PM

  I'm not 100% sure, but I don't think the R-09 deals with phantom power either.
Title: Re: R09 and ECM-717
Post by: Church-Audio on February 19, 2007, 05:06:37 PM
Hello,

I'm new to this forum, so I apologize, if this questions did already appear somewhere in this forum.

Would the edirol r-09 and the Sony ECM 717 microphone would work with the phantom power?

Thanks!


No it will not :) if you were able to connect 48 volts to it. You would see a small puff of smoke followed by a bad smell..
Title: Re: R09 and ECM-717
Post by: MishFan on February 19, 2007, 05:43:05 PM
Ok, thanks foor the answers!

I was using an Sony TCD-D7 with the ECM 717 with phantom power for years, and now the TCD-D7 crashed. So I want to upgrade to an flash card recorder.
Title: Re: R09 and ECM-717
Post by: Church-Audio on February 19, 2007, 05:49:23 PM
Ok, thanks foor the answers!

I was using an Sony TCD-D7 with the ECM 717 with phantom power for years, and now the TCD-D7 crashed. So I want to upgrade to an flash card recorder.

There is a difference between Phantom Power and plug in power. When you say phantom power around here its 18-52 volts.. When you say plug in power its 1.2 volts to 10 volts. Plug in power is what your Dat uses. Phantom is what a Balanced XLR on a preamp uses to power condenser mics. Plug in power is for Electret mics.

I was confused by your use of the term phantom sorry for the misunderstanding.
Title: Re: R09 and ECM-717
Post by: MishFan on February 19, 2007, 05:54:17 PM
Ok, thanks foor the answers!

I was using an Sony TCD-D7 with the ECM 717 with phantom power for years, and now the TCD-D7 crashed. So I want to upgrade to an flash card recorder.

There is a difference between Phantom Power and plug in power. When you say phantom power around here its 18-52 volts.. When you say plug in power its 1.2 volts to 10 volts. Plug in power is what your Dat uses. Phantom is what a Balanced XLR on a preamp uses to power condenser mics. Plug in power is for Electret mics.

I was confused by your use of the term phantom sorry for the misunderstanding.


Ok, I guess, it was also my fault then, I'm from Germany and we say "Phantom Speisung" for "plug-in power" in German. So I thought "phantom power" was the right word for it.

So has the edirol r09 the possibility for "plug-in power" then? Is it possible to use the ECM 717 with an edirol r09 at all?

Thanks
Title: Re: R09 and ECM-717
Post by: Church-Audio on February 19, 2007, 09:25:32 PM
Ok, thanks foor the answers!

I was using an Sony TCD-D7 with the ECM 717 with phantom power for years, and now the TCD-D7 crashed. So I want to upgrade to an flash card recorder.

There is a difference between Phantom Power and plug in power. When you say phantom power around here its 18-52 volts.. When you say plug in power its 1.2 volts to 10 volts. Plug in power is what your Dat uses. Phantom is what a Balanced XLR on a preamp uses to power condenser mics. Plug in power is for Electret mics.

I was confused by your use of the term phantom sorry for the misunderstanding.


Ok, I guess, it was also my fault then, I'm from Germany and we say "Phantom Speisung" for "plug-in power" in German. So I thought "phantom power" was the right word for it.

So has the edirol r09 the possibility for "plug-in power" then? Is it possible to use the ECM 717 with an edirol r09 at all?

Thanks

Yes that mic will work with the edirol but the built in mic will blow the sony out of the water for sound quality..

Chris Church
Title: Re: R09 and ECM-717
Post by: MishFan on February 20, 2007, 03:15:50 AM
Ok, thanks foor the answers!

I was using an Sony TCD-D7 with the ECM 717 with phantom power for years, and now the TCD-D7 crashed. So I want to upgrade to an flash card recorder.

There is a difference between Phantom Power and plug in power. When you say phantom power around here its 18-52 volts.. When you say plug in power its 1.2 volts to 10 volts. Plug in power is what your Dat uses. Phantom is what a Balanced XLR on a preamp uses to power condenser mics. Plug in power is for Electret mics.

I was confused by your use of the term phantom sorry for the misunderstanding.


Ok, I guess, it was also my fault then, I'm from Germany and we say "Phantom Speisung" for "plug-in power" in German. So I thought "phantom power" was the right word for it.

So has the edirol r09 the possibility for "plug-in power" then? Is it possible to use the ECM 717 with an edirol r09 at all?

Thanks

Yes that mic will work with the edirol but the built in mic will blow the sony out of the water for sound quality..

Chris Church


What would be a good external mic for stealth recording then? I once tried the OKM II Rock with my DAT, but I do not like the sound and it has the annoying "handy noise" problem!
Title: Re: R09 and ECM-717
Post by: Nick's Picks on February 21, 2007, 07:39:44 AM
that "Church" fella you're talking to makes great mics that will work well w/that deck.
:-)

as will:
at853
dpa 406x
or, get yourself an outboard phantom supply (real phantom, 48v) and run some condensers.  Plenty of excellent performing inexpensive models out there.