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Title: Iriver Question
Post by: Cheesecadet on March 05, 2007, 10:58:14 AM
Hey all after searching all over the place i came up with two conflicting reports...so...

Does the iriver 120/140 allow you to record at 16-Bit/ 48 kHz ....OR....Only  16-Bit/ 44.1 kHz???

Assuming the unit is rockboxed of course ::)

Ryan in CA
Title: Re: Iriver Question
Post by: Nick Graham on March 05, 2007, 12:56:27 PM
If I remember correctly, you can do 16/48 if running analog in, digital in it'll read the 48k signal as 44.1 - causing major speed issues.
Title: Re: Iriver Question
Post by: Massive Dynamic on March 05, 2007, 04:03:19 PM
If I remember correctly, you can do 16/48 if running analog in, digital in it'll read the 48k signal as 44.1 - causing major speed issues.
I had this problem as well, but it was caused by the 9-13-2006 REP build I was using. Other builds of RockBox will accept up to 16/96 via optical. I'm using a much older build, so I can't really say if builds currently available on RockBox have this problem or not.
Title: Re: Iriver Question
Post by: petur on March 06, 2007, 09:30:31 AM
in h1x0, analog in goes up to 16/44, digital does 16/xx (can't remember, could well be 16/96).
Afaik, the invalid samplerate bug was fixed months ago...

on iaudio X5, rockbox does analog 16/88
Title: Re: Iriver Question
Post by: Ryan Sims on March 06, 2007, 10:21:52 AM
Can anyone explain the advantage of recording at a higher sample rate if bit-depth is still 16? 
Title: Re: Iriver Question
Post by: boojum on March 22, 2007, 10:42:22 PM
Is there no one on this board able to answer this simple question?   ???
Title: Re: Iriver Question
Post by: Alchemy on March 23, 2007, 01:53:31 AM
Is there no one on this board able to answer this simple question?   ???

It's in the FAQ...read it!

http://taperssection.com/index.php/topic,73139.0.html
Title: Re: Iriver Question
Post by: cgrooves on March 23, 2007, 09:52:10 AM
Is there no one on this board able to answer this simple question?   ???

It's in the FAQ...read it!

http://taperssection.com/index.php/topic,73139.0.html

I may be mistaken, but, I was thinking that boojum was refering to Ryan Sims question, and not the original question at the top of the thread.  It would have helped clarify the issue if Ryan's post was quoted in his post.  I don't think the benefits of higher sample rates is really discussed in the FAQ, but correct me if I'm wrong.
Title: Re: Iriver Question
Post by: Ryan Sims on March 23, 2007, 12:15:06 PM
You're correct about the sample rate question.  I am still interested if anyone cares to explain.
Title: Re: Iriver Question
Post by: Digital Quality on March 23, 2007, 01:04:35 PM
Are you talking about analog in or digital in?

It will capture as high as 88kHz (possibly 96kHz) 48kHz on the digital in but it puts 44.1kHz in the wav header so it will play really slow in some tools. You can edit the wav header and change it to the right value and everything is cool again.
Title: Re: Iriver Question
Post by: Digital Quality on March 25, 2007, 12:20:29 AM
Never mind. I ran it 88kHz and got dropouts. Looks like 48KHz is the max.
Title: Re: Iriver Question
Post by: whatboutbob on March 25, 2007, 09:19:58 AM
Never mind. I ran it 88kHz and got dropouts. Looks like 48KHz is the max.

That wasn't the case last time I tested digi-in (quite a ways back, mind). Recorded up to 88kHz fine.
Title: Re: Iriver Question
Post by: Digital Quality on March 26, 2007, 03:18:04 PM
Maybe I had a cable problem, that's entirely possible. I'll test it at home tonight some more with a new cable. It seemed to run fine for a while and then get a drop about every five minutes or so.
Title: Re: Iriver Question
Post by: petur on March 27, 2007, 03:27:22 AM
Maybe I had a cable problem, that's entirely possible. I'll test it at home tonight some more with a new cable. It seemed to run fine for a while and then get a drop about every five minutes or so.
If you do find it is a RockBox issue, could you please post it in the recording subforum of rockbox.org (http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?board=26.0 (http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?board=26.0)), and/or add it to the bug-tracker (http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/newtask/proj1 (http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/newtask/proj1))? I'll make sure jhMikeS sees it ;)
AFAIK he tested this and so it should work, but I have no h1x0 so I can't try myself...

EDIT: I got told 96kHz works good so no reason 88kHz shouldn't work.
Title: Re: Iriver Question
Post by: Arni99 on March 27, 2007, 04:27:05 AM
Maybe I had a cable problem, that's entirely possible. I'll test it at home tonight some more with a new cable. It seemed to run fine for a while and then get a drop about every five minutes or so.

Which build was used when you got the dropouts?
I never had dropouts on my recordings using the 20070217 build + REP from Mmmm´s website ;).
Title: Re: Iriver Question
Post by: Digital Quality on March 27, 2007, 12:14:25 PM
I'll check my build tonight and do an upgrade and try again. I have a build I grabbed from Mmm's sig line a few months ago.

I ran 96kHz last night and it did the same thing. I put a different cable in the chain and was very careful to not touch anything the whole time. It goes along nicely but hiccups every few minutes.

Something else I'm doing differently is that I'm feeding it a 24 bit signal and expecting it to truncate the last byte. I wonder if that's maybe causing it to hiccup?? I started doing this because I wanted to use it as a backup when running 24 bits.
Title: Re: Iriver Question
Post by: whatboutbob on March 27, 2007, 06:00:50 PM
ahhh...yup...it doesn't handle 24 bits properly. that'll be it.
Title: Re: Iriver Question
Post by: Digital Quality on March 27, 2007, 07:04:22 PM
Can't handle it  - as in can't truncate? I'll try again but that seemed to work ok up for 48kHz.