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Title: i am looking at new gear
Post by: slapshot on March 20, 2007, 06:40:35 PM
i am looking at new gear and any info would help

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/-C1000S-Condenser-Mic-And-K44-Headphone-Kit?sku=270028

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Rolls-MP13-MiniMic-Preamp?sku=428714
Title: Re: i am looking at new gear
Post by: twatts (pants are so over-rated...) on March 20, 2007, 07:36:45 PM
The AKG C1000S uses an internal battery so phantom power is not needed.

You will still need a pre-amp, but many recorders now have some kind of pre-amp stage so you may not even need an actual separate device. 

If you decide you need a pre-amp, I would recommend the Denecke AD20 as it allows both analog line out as well as digital line-out.  As you upgrade, you may want the extra features. 

Also, the Rolls Pre you selected only supplies 21v Phantom Power.  You may want to select one that provides 48v phantom as that is the most common voltage used.  The Denecke PS2 is a good choice here, but if you go with the C1000S mic(s), you won't need the phantom.

Just some initial thoughts...

Terry

PS  Take a look around Yard Sale.  There are a lot of nice items coming up for sale all the the time, some you may find within you price range.



Title: Re: i am looking at new gear
Post by: slapshot on March 20, 2007, 07:55:59 PM
oh i thought i would need a preamp because the setup im using now gives me bad recordings that are too qiet   but i definatly need to get a good mic

thanks for the advice
Title: Re: i am looking at new gear
Post by: funk_pie on March 20, 2007, 08:18:22 PM
If you decide you need a pre-amp, I would recommend the Denecke AD20 as it allows both analog line out as well as digital line-out. 

 ???  Correct me if I'm wrong, but I belive it only has digital outs (optical and spdif)
Title: Re: i am looking at new gear
Post by: twatts (pants are so over-rated...) on March 20, 2007, 09:13:02 PM
If you decide you need a pre-amp, I would recommend the Denecke AD20 as it allows both analog line out as well as digital line-out. 

 ???  Correct me if I'm wrong, but I belive it only has digital outs (optical and spdif)

I thought it had a line-out via 1/8" and SPDIF out via toslink???  I may be incorrect???

Actually, now that I think about it, it is an ADC, hence the name!  Duh!

And further reading shows the C1000S mics can take 9v-52v Phantom Power. .

Terry
Title: Re: i am looking at new gear
Post by: slapshot on March 20, 2007, 09:17:47 PM
so that mic is powered what dose that do sorry im a newbie i just wana learn
Title: Re: i am looking at new gear
Post by: Kindguy on March 20, 2007, 10:05:48 PM
You will need a preamp. Or line transformers to boost the signal. You'll always have gain problems without em.

What kind of recorder do you have?

Title: Re: i am looking at new gear
Post by: NJFunk on March 20, 2007, 10:08:52 PM
If you decide you need a pre-amp, I would recommend the Denecke AD20 as it allows both analog line out as well as digital line-out. 

 ???  Correct me if I'm wrong, but I belive it only has digital outs (optical and spdif)

I thought it had a line-out via 1/8" and SPDIF out via toslink???  I may be incorrect???

Actually, now that I think about it, it is an ADC, hence the name!  Duh!

And further reading shows the C1000S mics can take 9v-52v Phantom Power. .

Terry


It's an 1/8" coax out, not an 1/8" AND a coax.
Title: Re: i am looking at new gear
Post by: Kindguy on March 20, 2007, 10:09:16 PM
so that mic is powered what dose that do sorry im a newbie i just wana learn

Mics need power. via Phantom power or batt's.

Do not confuse phantom power with preamp. Some pre's provide phantom power. Some don't.
Title: Re: i am looking at new gear
Post by: slapshot on March 20, 2007, 10:09:51 PM
i am not sure but i think i need a pre amp so i can record with my NJB1 i tried using the gain thats built in and it ruins the recording with all the noise and is still to quiet. would that mic be enough or do i still need the preamp i am starting think i really need both and if i do does any one have suggestions on what i should get or if the ones i found are any good
Title: Re: i am looking at new gear
Post by: Kindguy on March 20, 2007, 10:20:53 PM
i am not sure but i think i need a pre amp so i can record with my NJB1 i tried using the gain thats built in and it ruins the recording with all the noise and is still to quiet. would that mic be enough or do i still need the preamp i am starting think i really need both and if i do does any one have suggestions on what i should get or if the ones i found are any good
You will need a preamp. Or line transformers to boost the signal. You'll always have gain problems without em.





How much $$$ do you have to spend?
Title: Re: i am looking at new gear
Post by: slapshot on March 20, 2007, 10:24:46 PM
i can spare like $400 at the most
Title: Re: i am looking at new gear
Post by: twatts (pants are so over-rated...) on March 20, 2007, 11:17:43 PM
For approx $400, you could get a digi-mod UA5 and a pair of Studio Project C4s, both used...

http://taperssection.com/index.php/topic,80389.0.html
http://taperssection.com/index.php/topic,77419.0.html

Both of those items have SOLD, but they are typical of prices here.

Terry

Title: Re: i am looking at new gear
Post by: Kindguy on March 20, 2007, 11:47:20 PM
For approx $400, you could get a digi-mod UA5 and a pair of Studio Project C4s, both used...

http://taperssection.com/index.php/topic,80389.0.html
http://taperssection.com/index.php/topic,77419.0.html

Both of those items have SOLD, but they are typical of prices here.

Terry



This would be a great 1st rig.  I'd rather run the Studio Project C4s over the AKGc1000's.

Title: Re: i am looking at new gear
Post by: twatts (pants are so over-rated...) on March 20, 2007, 11:54:24 PM
Not sure if this is still available:

http://taperssection.com/index.php/topic,81187.0.html

Terry

Title: Re: i am looking at new gear
Post by: Kindguy on March 21, 2007, 01:05:21 PM
A set of c1000's in the yard sale right now 175.00
http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=81532.0


Also a modded rolls phantom box for 50.00
http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=81530.0
Title: Re: i am looking at new gear
Post by: twatts (pants are so over-rated...) on March 21, 2007, 07:12:46 PM
Dig it:

http://taperssection.com/index.php/topic,81532.0.html

Terry