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Gear / Technical Help => Recording Gear => Topic started by: Shawn on April 09, 2007, 07:37:51 AM
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interesting....
http://www.fostexinternational.com/news_files/images/PD204_Preliminary.pdf
http://www.fostexinternational.com/news_files/images/PD606_Preliminary.pdf
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those do not look inexpensive.
http://tinyurl.com/38fxrv
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interesting....
http://www.fostexinternational.com/n...reliminary.pdf
http://www.fostexinternational.com/n...reliminary.pdf
Links aren't working any longer. If the 204 is a 4 track > 2 recorded track device, is the 606 a 6 track recorder?
New links:
http://www.fostexinternational.com/cgi-bin/viewnews.cgi?id=EEZuAZFpFFhyumDJdF&tmpl=viewnews_pro_head (http://www.fostexinternational.com/cgi-bin/viewnews.cgi?id=EEZuAZFpFFhyumDJdF&tmpl=viewnews_pro_head)
http://www.fostexinternational.com/docs/pro_products/pd6.shtml (http://www.fostexinternational.com/docs/pro_products/pd6.shtml)
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I updated the original links. sorry about that.
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I updated the original links. sorry about that.
No worries. Looks like the 606 may have missed the boat for our purposes. The 2 hour time limitation of the NP-1 battery and the limited record time to the dvd drive. Check out the record times listed here:
http://www.fostexinternational.com/docs/pro_support/pro_dvd_rec_times.shtml (http://www.fostexinternational.com/docs/pro_support/pro_dvd_rec_times.shtml)
4 & 6 track recording is limited to 48 hHz and only gives you +/- 30 minutes record time.
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I updated the original links. sorry about that.
No worries. Looks like the 606 may have missed the boat for our purposes. The 2 hour time limitation of the NP-1 battery and the limited record time to the dvd drive. Check out the record times listed here:
http://www.fostexinternational.com/docs/pro_support/pro_dvd_rec_times.shtml (http://www.fostexinternational.com/docs/pro_support/pro_dvd_rec_times.shtml)
4 & 6 track recording is limited to 48 hHz and only gives you +/- 30 minutes record time.
I can't tell from that chart what the record time limits are when recording to the hard drive.
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I updated the original links. sorry about that.
No worries. Looks like the 606 may have missed the boat for our purposes. The 2 hour time limitation of the NP-1 battery and the limited record time to the dvd drive. Check out the record times listed here:
http://www.fostexinternational.com/docs/pro_support/pro_dvd_rec_times.shtml (http://www.fostexinternational.com/docs/pro_support/pro_dvd_rec_times.shtml)
4 & 6 track recording is limited to 48 hHz and only gives you +/- 30 minutes record time.
I can't tell from that chart what the record time limits are when recording to the hard drive.
It doesn't tell you that. Good call. Note, the HD is listed as an "option".
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I wonder if these will be out before the FR-2LE ::)
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At this rate, Goonies 2 will be out before the FR-2LE.
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At this rate, Goonies 2 will be out before the FR-2LE.
Damnit. I can't wait for that sequel! >:D
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These things look cool!
The PD204 has a "Jam" switch!
Been waiting for that feature to come out on a TS.com embraced piece of gear...
:P
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The PD204 has a "Jam" switch!
Been waiting for that feature to come out on a TS.com embraced piece of gear...
FWIW, the Tascam HD-P2 lets you jam sync.
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The 6ch box is an updated version of one that has been out for a while... the Hard Drive option is a must for our purposes.. from a cost point the 6ch is in the $8K area as I investigated multi-channel options last year...
The other box is New as far as I can tell and looks interesting...
CQbert
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from a cost point the 6ch is in the $8K area as I investigated multi-channel options last year...
:o :o :o
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The PD204 has a "Jam" switch!
Been waiting for that feature to come out on a TS.com embraced piece of gear...
FWIW, the Tascam HD-P2 lets you jam sync.
What is that feature? Is it for combining files together...
I had never seen it on any piece of gear, and just got a chuckle out of it.
:)
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At this rate, Goonies 2 will be out before the FR-2LE.
In switzerland it is possible to buy the FR2 LE for 900 Swiss Francs
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The PD204 has a "Jam" switch!
Been waiting for that feature to come out on a TS.com embraced piece of gear...
FWIW, the Tascam HD-P2 lets you jam sync.
What is that feature? Is it for combining files together...
I had never seen it on any piece of gear, and just got a chuckle out of it.
:)
personally, I've never used the jam sync feature. I'm pretty sure it's got something to do with time code and syncing up audio/video devices...
here we go:
http://whatis.techtarget.com/definition/0,,sid9_gci213624,00.html (http://whatis.techtarget.com/definition/0,,sid9_gci213624,00.html)
In audio (sound) production, jam sync is a mode of device synchronization using SMPTE time code in which a slave device can furnish its own timing during the time that a master device is temporarily unstable. Jam sync is usually an optional mode that the user can select.
In a basic SMPTE synchronization scenario, time code is fed from one device (the master) to a second device (the slave). The slave device follows the time locations as transmitted by the master device. If the master device goes to one hour and thirteen minutes (expressed as 01:13:00:00; Hours:Minutes:Seconds:Frames), the slave device follows it there.
The problem arises when the master device's SMPTE time code has an error in it, caused by a small bad portion of tape, for example. In most situations, the slave device would not know what to do for a split second since it has missing instructions from its host. It would stutter or stop completely.
By using jam syncing, the slave device can be instructed to ignore small dropouts of time code from the master, thus ensuring smooth synchronization. To do this, it generates its own time code whenever the master's time code is missing.
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personally, I've never used the jam sync feature. I'm pretty sure it's got something to do with time code and syncing up audio/video devices...
Yes, this is used in the film/video world where everybody needs to be in sync or it's a mess.
As far as these devices go. We'll see. They are aiming at the pro film/video market with these devices. It is very rare for sound to exceed more than 15 to 20 minutes at any single time, so these might work out just fine in that setting. Of course the cost brings them close to the Zaxcom area and personally if you're looking at 8K for something like this, then an additional 2-3K for a box that does a ton more with more channels, then why bother with this box. Of course at NAB, I'm sure they will set their price, and until that time, it's all speculation.
Wayne
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Hi the anouced prices are very high PD 606 a bit cheaper then the PD 6 the PD 206 2300$.
But there is a new toy from Sonosax coming in Fall/Winter wich blows the 4/6 channels machines away. Up to 8 tracks on the HD plus 2 tracks on the CF Card
Compact and Leight Weight 8 tracks Recorder on Hard Disk and CF Card
The ideal companion for classical music and on location multi-track
recording Recording capabilities: 44,1 up to 192kHz @ 24bits and 16 bits
( dithering ) Up to 8 tracks on the HD plus 2 tracks on the CF Card
Small and robust construction Friendly user interface, easy maintenance
Battery or external DC operated
KEY FEATURES
4x electronically balanced Mic/Line Input, XLR connectors
2x unbalanced adjustable Line input on TA3 connector
48V Phantom for Mic power
Pre LF Cut for rough wind conditions - PAD - Phase reversal
2 Gain range and trim Gain control on the front
Stereo linking of channel 1- 2 and channels 3-4
Limiter on each channel
4 x AES Digital input ( 8channels )
TimeCode In & Out, all format
NTSC Pull Up / Pull Down 0.1%
Wckl and Video Sync In
Wckl Sync Out
unbalanced stereo Line Outputs, on TA3 connector
Machined aluminum panel and carbon fiber housing
Dimensions: 176 x 44 x 138 mm / 6,93" x 1,75" x 5,43"
Weight aprox 800 grams ( 1,76 lbs ) with batteries
Powered by four AA batteries or external 6 - 15 VDC
Estimated price: aprox Euro 3'500 - USD 4'500 - CHF 5'600
Estimated deliveries: automn 2007
http://sonosax.ch/SXR4/SXR4.html
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Nice. I'd consider that over a 744. 4 mic pres. Sweet. Reasonable price too. Although is that without the harddrive?
Hi the anouced prices are very high PD 606 a bit cheaper then the PD 6 the PD 206 2300$.
But there is a new toy from Sonosax coming in Fall/Winter wich blows the 4/6 channels machines away. Up to 8 tracks on the HD plus 2 tracks on the CF Card
Compact and Leight Weight 8 tracks Recorder on Hard Disk and CF Card
The ideal companion for classical music and on location multi-track
recording Recording capabilities: 44,1 up to 192kHz @ 24bits and 16 bits
( dithering ) Up to 8 tracks on the HD plus 2 tracks on the CF Card
Small and robust construction Friendly user interface, easy maintenance
Battery or external DC operated
KEY FEATURES
4x electronically balanced Mic/Line Input, XLR connectors
2x unbalanced adjustable Line input on TA3 connector
48V Phantom for Mic power
Pre LF Cut for rough wind conditions - PAD - Phase reversal
2 Gain range and trim Gain control on the front
Stereo linking of channel 1- 2 and channels 3-4
Limiter on each channel
4 x AES Digital input ( 8channels )
TimeCode In & Out, all format
NTSC Pull Up / Pull Down 0.1%
Wckl and Video Sync In
Wckl Sync Out
unbalanced stereo Line Outputs, on TA3 connector
Machined aluminum panel and carbon fiber housing
Dimensions: 176 x 44 x 138 mm / 6,93" x 1,75" x 5,43"
Weight aprox 800 grams ( 1,76 lbs ) with batteries
Powered by four AA batteries or external 6 - 15 VDC
Estimated price: aprox Euro 3'500 - USD 4'500 - CHF 5'600
Estimated deliveries: automn 2007
http://sonosax.ch/SXR4/SXR4.html
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Also just announced is the Zaxcom Deva 5.8 and Deva 16. The Deva 5.8, really isn't anything much more than what they have now with the Deva V (10 channel recorder), except that it now has 8 hardware faders on the front and a CF slot on the front.
The Deva 16 is a whole new wow factor. A box with 16 analog inputs and 8 outputs. I'm sure the price isn't going to wow anybody here, but this is a big deal. Until now nobody has been able to have that many channels in a single box.
Wayne