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Title: 48Khz or 44.1Khz?
Post by: phishn on October 21, 2003, 12:27:47 PM
Hi,

I'm trying to decide if I should record 44.1Khz or 48Khz.  The best software I have to downsample is Cool Edit Pro 2.1.  Is this sofware sufficient enough to make a downsampling from 48 to 44.1 worthwhile or should I just record at 44.1?
Title: Re:48Khz or 44.1Khz?
Post by: F.O.Bean on October 21, 2003, 12:36:36 PM
get the most out of yer tapes, record at 48k and downsample in CEP 2.1.....my 00.02
Title: Re:48Khz or 44.1Khz?
Post by: barren4 on October 21, 2003, 12:52:11 PM
I guess it's really up to you.  I think it makes more sense to record at the highest quality possible because you can always go down but you cannot go up.  I happen to also use cool edit pro and i find that it resampled very nicely for me.  I just set it to use the slowest/best method and give it some time to crunch.  

In CEP that would be "Quality" 999

Later on if/when we're listening to our shows on dvd or harddrives or large capacity memory sticks we'll have the higher bit rate source.
Title: Re:48Khz or 44.1Khz?
Post by: sexymexi on October 21, 2003, 08:09:08 PM
i think its hard to say, but if your gonna burn them to cd, then go 44.1, cause if not you'll come into trouble, you will have to downsample, but yea, whenver i do anything on the PC i use 44.1, but cause i burn my stuff..  but yea...  do what you think is right..
Title: Re:48Khz or 44.1Khz?
Post by: phishn on October 21, 2003, 08:22:08 PM
should i disable dithering and the pre/post filter?
Title: Re:48Khz or 44.1Khz?
Post by: phishn on October 21, 2003, 08:24:27 PM
i actually would rather seed at 48k using flacs..but i know the trading community would probably bitch...so downsampling is necessary to 44.1
Title: Re:48Khz or 44.1Khz?
Post by: Chuck on October 22, 2003, 11:40:17 AM
Record at 48 kHz. Recording at the highest bit rate possible is the best way to go. You can always down sample. As some have pointed out already, you will always have the better DAT source to work with when better playback options become available.
Title: Re:48Khz or 44.1Khz?
Post by: Chris K on October 24, 2003, 02:47:09 PM
i also believe it is best to record at the highest resloution and if need be dither down...ymmv
Title: Re:48Khz or 44.1Khz?
Post by: John R on October 25, 2003, 02:52:59 PM
48

jr
Title: Re:48Khz or 44.1Khz?
Post by: Sean Gallemore on October 26, 2003, 03:41:46 AM
96
Title: Re:48Khz or 44.1Khz?
Post by: John R on October 26, 2003, 08:33:30 AM
96

schwilly, does your MD atrac17 go up to 96? :smoking2:

jr
Title: Re:48Khz or 44.1Khz?
Post by: John R on October 26, 2003, 12:08:20 PM
We did a west coast hot rodding to it! Always tweeking!

you cali d00ds rule.  heard you ride boards on the water, too.

jr
Title: Re:48Khz or 44.1Khz?
Post by: Sean Gallemore on October 26, 2003, 01:06:56 PM
96

schwilly, does your MD atrac17 go up to 96? :smoking2:

jr

that's what it says, but after compression it sounds like 24  :spin:
i hear team dat calling my name
Title: Re:48Khz or 44.1Khz?
Post by: Lee on October 26, 2003, 05:39:32 PM
I'm going to go against the grain a little here.  Because I use a JB3, all my stuff ends up on disc for archival purposes anyway.  I record straight to 44.1 because I think the apogee sounds better at 44.1 than recording at 48 and resampling.  As always, YMMV.
Title: Re:48Khz or 44.1Khz?
Post by: VA_TAPER on October 27, 2003, 09:03:00 AM
I'm going to go against the grain a little here.  Because I use a JB3, all my stuff ends up on disc for archival purposes anyway.  I record straight to 44.1 because I think the apogee sounds better at 44.1 than recording at 48 and resampling.  As always, YMMV.

Great observation!  I noticed it as well, when you are using any source that applies dither (Apogee's UV22, Sony SBM-1, or Grace's ANSR) that should be the last step in the recording process; otherwise you are introducing quantization errors and skewing the noise shaping curve by downsampling, normalizing, eq, etc.

peace, chris