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Title: LD Mic Configs
Post by: Nick Graham on April 29, 2007, 01:42:24 PM
At one point there was a web page (started by old ts.com member Jason B) with pictures of pretty much every mic config using an AKG T-Bar and a pair of Neumann U89s.

Anybody know the URL, or saved the pics and can re-post by chance?

Thanks in advance....
Title: Re: LD Mic Configs
Post by: Brian Skalinder on April 29, 2007, 01:57:15 PM
My preferred solution for coincident configs:

http://taperssection.com/index.php/topic,66061.msg886386.html#msg886386

Moke archived the pics about which I think you're asking:

http://www.taperssection.com/reference/images/JasonB%20LD%20Mic%20Configs/

For near-coincident stability, I like adjusting the AKG KM235 bar such that the mics are centered above the mic stand's vertical axis, instead of out in front 3-6".  See attached pics below for what I mean - I prefer "b" instead of "a" for stability (though I always used a lightweight stand).

Title: Re: LD Mic Configs
Post by: Nick Graham on April 29, 2007, 02:14:49 PM
Thanks so much for the links! Those were definitely the pics I was looking for, though the 414 photos obviously help a ton too.

I think your reply got cut off...


My preferred solution for coincident configs:

http://taperssection.com/index.php/topic,66061.msg886386.html#msg886386

Moke archived the pics about which I think you're asking:

http://www.taperssection.com/reference/images/JasonB%20LD%20Mic%20Configs/

For near-coincident stability, I like adjusting the AKG KM235 bar such that the mics are centered above the mic stand's vertical axis, instead of out in front 3-6".  This basically requires
Title: Re: LD Mic Configs
Post by: Brian Skalinder on April 29, 2007, 02:21:37 PM
I think your reply got cut off...

Whoops, forgot to complete the post before, well...posting.  Updated, now, with a couple pics to illustrate what I was talking about.
Title: Re: LD Mic Configs
Post by: RobertNC on April 29, 2007, 02:32:08 PM
Ditto on the Windtechs for running coincident

(http://www.geocities.com/wes_atl2003/ADKTLXY1.jpg)
Title: Re: LD Mic Configs
Post by: Shawn on April 29, 2007, 02:40:43 PM

For near-coincident stability, I like adjusting the AKG KM235 bar such that the mics are centered above the mic stand's vertical axis, instead of out in front 3-6".  See attached pics below for what I mean - I prefer "b" instead of "a" for stability (though I always used a lightweight stand).

This is stellar advice. Once I figured this out I was amazed at how much more stable my stand was. hanging them out front really makes even a big old bogen stand want to lean forward so much so that I was afraid that one tap from a wooks dread could make the whole stand tip over.
Title: Re: LD Mic Configs
Post by: Gutbucket on April 30, 2007, 10:09:23 AM
Ditto on the Windtechs for running coincident

(http://www.geocities.com/wes_atl2003/ADKTLXY1.jpg)

Bingo!
Just what I was going to start looking around for. Thx.
Title: Re: LD Mic Configs
Post by: beanstalk on April 30, 2007, 01:56:55 PM
(http://www.aclarkedesign.com/resized/DSCF0002.jpg)

(http://www.aclarkedesign.com/resized/DSCF0001.jpg)
Title: Re: LD Mic Configs
Post by: RobertNC on April 30, 2007, 10:56:10 PM
LD Tapers rock!   :D

+ts to everyone who totes those boys 
Title: Re: LD Mic Configs
Post by: gratefulphish on April 30, 2007, 11:58:54 PM
LDs rule.
Title: Re: LD Mic Configs
Post by: NOLAfishwater on June 02, 2007, 01:16:47 PM
I have a set of 414's that I just got and am still learning how to use. the set came with the mark bar and I was told that the easiest and best way to run them was close together and at 90 degrees crossing each other.Looks like I need to buy two clamps. The pair also came with a 36" bar. Someone told me that I could run the mics all the way apart, but what degree do I set them at?
Title: Re: LD Mic Configs
Post by: sygdwm on June 02, 2007, 01:52:10 PM
I have a set of 414's that I just got and am still learning how to use. the set came with the mark bar and I was told that the easiest and best way to run them was close together and at 90 degrees crossing each other.Looks like I need to buy two clamps. The pair also came with a 36" bar. Someone told me that I could run the mics all the way apart, but what degree do I set them at?

you can run either subcards or omnis spread pointed out ~30* w/ good results.
Title: Re: LD Mic Configs
Post by: NOLAfishwater on June 03, 2007, 12:51:24 AM
I have a set of 414's that I just got and am still learning how to use. the set came with the mark bar and I was told that the easiest and best way to run them was close together and at 90 degrees crossing each other.Looks like I need to buy two clamps. The pair also came with a 36" bar. Someone told me that I could run the mics all the way apart, but what degree do I set them at?

you can run either subcards or omnis spread pointed out ~30* w/ good results.

~30* what does that mean?  I am headed to a couple of festivals this summer and was wondering how I should run them. Should I just leave the 36" bar at home? or are you saying to run them at a 30" split and point the LD's directly out to the sides or to the front?
Title: Re: LD Mic Configs
Post by: sygdwm on June 03, 2007, 03:41:45 AM
30 degrees. as in pointed at/outside the stacks.
Title: Re: LD Mic Configs
Post by: NOLAfishwater on June 03, 2007, 08:59:10 AM
what about the split? should I run them all the way out with a 36" split? Someone had also recommended using an Omni pickup.
Title: Re: LD Mic Configs
Post by: Shawn on June 03, 2007, 09:11:19 AM
NOLA, there is a lot of information on stereo microphone techniques online. search this site or google for "stereo microphone techniques" and read, read, read. you'll learn tons and most of it is fairly easy to understand stuff.

here's a link that may help you get started...
http://www.prosoundweb.com/studyhall/shure/mics/stereo/techniques.php
Title: Re: LD Mic Configs
Post by: NOLAfishwater on June 03, 2007, 04:38:37 PM
NOLA, there is a lot of information on stereo microphone techniques online. search this site or google for "stereo microphone techniques" and read, read, read. you'll learn tons and most of it is fairly easy to understand stuff.

here's a link that may help you get started...
http://www.prosoundweb.com/studyhall/shure/mics/stereo/techniques.php


Thanks for the link. +T for helping a LD noob.